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Can-Am License

I got my Learners Permit on a Wednesday, bought my Spyder on Saturday. Riding two and a half hours home on the interstate was the first time I had ever been on a bike. Got my license on Tuesday. Start to finish 7 days total. When taking the license test, the examiner had never given a test to anyone on a Spyder and didn't have a clue how to test me. He started laying out the cones about 4 feet apart and I looked at him like, are you kidding me. He finally picked them up and tried to do the test. I was able to do about half the normal test, and that was it.

Riding the Spyder felt very natural to me and I didn't have any problems. If you feel you need to take a course, by all means, take one. But having some basic logic abilities is all I feel you really need. I can kick most motorcyclists that I ride with a#@ on the twisties, and I didn't need a course to teach me that.
 
I disagree, how do you know what people's abilities are?

Well, that's kinda the whole point. Much safer to take the MSI course...and that does a darned good job of weeding out people who shouldn't be on bikes before they kill themselves or someone else.

IMHO.
 
I have a motorcycle endorsement left over from my two wheel days. But Nevada just passed a new law that sypders not longer need to have a motorcycle endorsement. Just a regular driver license is required. Also with this new law riders of sypders do not have to wear helmets. This all went into effect on may 15, 2015.
 
I got my Learners Permit on a Wednesday, bought my Spyder on Saturday. Riding two and a half hours home on the interstate was the first time I had ever been on a bike. Got my license on Tuesday. Start to finish 7 days total. When taking the license test, the examiner had never given a test to anyone on a Spyder and didn't have a clue how to test me. He started laying out the cones about 4 feet apart and I looked at him like, are you kidding me. He finally picked them up and tried to do the test. I was able to do about half the normal test, and that was it.

Riding the Spyder felt very natural to me and I didn't have any problems. If you feel you need to take a course, by all means, take one. But having some basic logic abilities is all I feel you really need. I can kick most motorcyclists that I ride with a#@ on the twisties, and I didn't need a course to teach me that.

In Va , you have to hold your learners permit 30 days before DMV lets you take the test. :(

I was also the first to take the new 3 wheel course in our area and the lady had no clue.

Also, they use to do the driving part at our local DMVs but there isn't enough room for a Spyder so they have a central location for this now...and its 40 mins away! :gaah:

I was a little worried going there because I was supposed to follow a licensed rider there...like I knew another rider? Nothing was ever said though.
 
In NC, permit allows you do ride anywhere, at anytime, as long as you don't ride 2 up. I was surprised but I wasnt complaining. I actually passed the driver test before i had gotten my permit in the mail.
 
NC Training course

Hey !!! New to the forum - new Spyder owner.....New cycle "driver"....always a "rider"......Would love to find a course where I could learn about the bike and get my motorcycle endorsement license....I have my permit and have been "practicing" on rural roads......does anyone know of such a course in NC ?
 
After having the Spyder for three months, the wife now wants to learn to ride. She never had an interest on two wheels, she was happy being a passenger. I checked into a safety course for her, which Arizona now has a three wheel course. The two wheel course is $289.00, runs 16 hours, and they supply the motorcycle. The three wheel course is $489.00, runs 12 hours, and you have to supply your own bike. The math doesn't add up in my head. I am sending her to the two wheel course and then I will assist her on the Spyder. If she loves it I may have to go out and buy another one for me, poor me! F3?
 
Here in Arizona you need a motorcycle endoresement to ride a trike or a Spyder. If it was up to me, a few years of motorcycle riding experience should be required first, but that's just me.

Pam

Hawaii is the same and I couldn't agree more with you last statement. :thumbup:
 
Hey !!! New to the forum - new Spyder owner.....New cycle "driver"....always a "rider"......Would love to find a course where I could learn about the bike and get my motorcycle endorsement license....I have my permit and have been "practicing" on rural roads......does anyone know of such a course in NC ?

I have not been able to find a three wheel course readily available in NC. Only information I could dig up was outdated.

Take the regular MSF course from your local community college. That will free you from having to take the road test for your permanent motorcycle endorsement and will get you a break on your insurance rate.
 
Depending on what you're riding you may or may not need a special endorsement.

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Like Greg said, you need a separate 3 wheel endorsement in WA. Having ridden two wheelers for years, after buying a Spyder this week I understand why they want a separate endorsement. To me it is more like riding a quad than a motorcycle.
they offer trike classes at Westside Motorsports and Lone Wolf Harley Davidson in Spokane.
 
superb

I took this course, and it was superb. Sidecars big and small, a trike and a couple Spyders. Pretty cheap, too.

http://evergreenmotorcycletraining.org/sidecar-training/

Rained like crazy one of the days I went, though!

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In NJ, if you have an MC license you can drive a three-wheeler. If you don't, you can get a three-wheel restricted license. My wife as no intention of riding two wheels so she took the two-day MSF three-wheel course and has the three-wheel endorsement. The two-day length is the same as folks getting a two-wheel license. Neither means your a now done learning.... just safe enough to get on the road and start learning.

I have no idea why one should need to have an MC license for a couple years before riding a three wheeler. I think some would argue the reverse if anything.
 
Please let us know the content of the Pennsylvania course; once you've got it tucked under your belt.
Good Luck! :thumbup:
 
This may be a stupid question but......

If someone lives in a state where an endorsement is not required would they have to get an endorsement to ryde through states that require one? :dontknow:
 
Even if I wanted to I could not take a course on motorcycle riding. We just don't have it here. Not even for car driving. I see 1,000s of people on motorcycles of all types and they do ok, nothing fabulous but they do ok overall. I have seen very few if any accidents. It is mostly cars. Sure in an ideal world this would be the best scenario all together but what about in my situation? I have ridden now for about 1400 miles on my new Spyder and have not had a mishap (and hope never to have one) I have rode in heavy traffic (sorta like NY City driving) and on easy rural roads which I prefer. I watch alot of videos and try and learn any way I can. Do I know it all, NOPE I don't, am I learning and becoming more proficient, YES! Mexico City is no piece of cake! :yikes:
 
If someone lives in a state where an endorsement is not required would they have to get an endorsement to ryde through states that require one? :dontknow:
Although I'm certainly NOT a legal expert; I believe not.
There are agreements of reciprocity between all of the States. As you as you comply with requirements in your own; you're good to go, in all of the others! :thumbup:
 
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