D.E.S.S. Key code again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Deanna777]

Deanna, thanks for the input! This is interesting. I also have no other keys on my Spyder key chain. I never have my two Spyder keys together either. I have one key, my wife has the other one. We do this for safety in case I lock my key in the Spyder by accident. Now for the other info, this past Saturday when my Spyder gave me the DESS for 2.5 hours, I had my phone on with Blue Tooth turned on, and my Sena headset on with Blue tooth attached to my phone. I don't know if that any impact on my problem or not. But after 2.5 hours, when the Spyder did start I didn't have my helmet with me at the bike, nor turned on. Just the phone. Interesting twist!!

I carry my cell phone in the trunk, so it is away from the front( D.E.S.S. and the ignition switch) and I do not have Blue tooth in my helmet/ or Sena. yea, it is an interesting twist. I will update this "Thread" when I get more info. from my Can-Am dealer. Please stay tuned, and If you have any other info. please post on this thread. Deanna

[Deanna777]

Ditto! Mine has popped up several times in the last two weeks, starting to happen more often. It will quit on me sooner or later as this pattern is much like it did before earlier this year, after which, the DESS module was changed. New ignition and keys last year, new module this year. Taking it to dealer tomorrow to see what they can do.

Other than this, this machine has been darn near flawless and I love it.

Lets us know what your dealer says, and what they will do. If it happens again take a picture, and take it to your dealership, then they can not say it did not happen. Deanna

[Deanna777]

I keep my phone and credit cards nowhere near the ignition switch. When I had my DESS error I wasn't even on the bike yet; I had turned the key on to let it boot up while I put my helmet and gloves on.

I don't keep both keys together but I do keep it on a short keyring along with the saddlebag key, LidLox key, and house keys.

My phone and Credit cards are no way near the Ignition switch. When I got the D.E.S.S error I was not on the spyder, I was getting ready to go. Deanna

[Deanna777]

Just trying to directly address pitzerwms' comment that all they changed for '15 were the colors.

Ok, Deanna

[Trbayth]

Please remember: They DID fix those!

After the government pretty much backed them into a corner.

[Pampurrs]

This "Does Not Compute"
So why, why, why, does BRP install the Bluetooth Dongle in the Frunk?!?! (Rhetorical question!)

AJ

There's a Bluetooth dongle in the Frunk?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Please remember: They DID fix those!

Please also remember it took a Federal law suit to get them to do it .............Mike

[Bob Denman]

You DO realize that you're hijacking your own LadyFriend's thread...

[ulflyer]

Lets us know what your dealer says, and what they will do. If it happens again take a picture, and take it to your dealership, then they can not say it did not happen. Deanna

Deanna, forgot where I posted the above and gave my report
in the 1330 Tech section. No hassle, no questions, they ordered new parts. I was in/out in about 15 min.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...4-RT-Scheduled

[gypsy_100]

Has anyone reported the D.E.S.S. error on models earlier than 2014?

Prior to the 2014's, the setup was different. The DESS module on the older models received the information from the key AND did the authentication. If it liked what it saw, it told the ECM to start the bike. That's why on older models if you swapped the DESS module, you had to reprogram the keys. With the 2014's, the DESS module is just a pass thru -- it receives the information from the key and simply passes it on to the ECM. The ECM does the authentication and decides whether to start the bike or not. So the DESS module on the 2014's can be swapped out with no reprogramming of the keys -- the authentication information is stored in the ECM.

I would say that means that the DESS modules are totally different and experience on prior years does not relate to 2014's. I asked my tech, who's very good, if he had any idea why BRP would have changed their strategy. He thought about it and said it may have been to make it easier to add new keys for people. With the old system, it was cumbersome and took some time to program the keys. Now he said they can use BUDS and it's really quick. Sounded like a good thought to me but only BRP knows for sure why they did it.

[Deanna777]

Deanna, forgot where I posted the above and gave my report
in the 1330 Tech section. No hassle, no questions, they ordered new parts. I was in/out in about 15 min.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?84877-DESS-Repairs-on-14-RT-Scheduled

Thanks for your info. I will look at the link that you posted. Deanna

[JayBros]

There's a Bluetooth dongle in the Frunk?

If you buy the Sena SM10 dongle from the dealer they will put it on a bracket in the frunk in front of the battery door. Some folks claim there's unacceptable interference with it in that location but mine works fine. YMMV.

[Deanna777]

You DO realize that you're hijacking your own LadyFriend's thread...

Bob, Thanks for reminding him. Deanna

[Deanna777]

Deanna, forgot where I posted the above and gave my report
in the 1330 Tech section. No hassle, no questions, they ordered new parts. I was in/out in about 15 min.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...4-RT-Scheduled

Thanks, I found your report. Deanna

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Bob, Thanks for reminding him. Deanna

Really Dee !!!!........But Bob's ....Hi-jack's are OK ?????......See His post's # 36, 42, 44, 48, & 57.....those didn't have anything to do with DESS issues.................How's this from now on ...BOB will help you out with any Spyder issues you have !!!!!!!.....see how that works out for you

[Bob Denman]

Really Dee !!!!........But Bob's ....Hi-jack's are OK ?????......See His post's # 36, 42, 44, 48, & 57.....those didn't have anything to do with DESS issues.................

Have you been able to ride this weekend at all ? The weather is gorgeous! (87 degrees down here!)

This would be offering some support to a rider whose bike is giving her trouble...

Are you related to Joe Walsh??

Okay; I'll give you this one... But it IS a good song!

The antenna? Perhaps it's just not getting set back exactly where it needs to be? This is NOT a 50,000 watt radio station; placement could be critical.

This one is ABSOLUTELY on-topic, as I was discussing another possible source of trouble for the DESS system.

Yes; yes it would!

Well; you've got me on this one also!
I'm NOT throwing anyone under the bus, but to be fair; I didn't start this one!

That's quite all right...
It's not as if I've NEVER gone off-topic before!

Once again; a discussion with Dee, where I was simply assuring her that I bore no ill-will toward her over what she had posted...
You must add context; for the meaning to be clear!

[Bob Denman]

He's the one who's in the middle of picking a fight with his own Ladyfriend...
I just defended myself; the right of everyone in here.

[Bob Denman]

I actually don't think so...
Here's why:
I don't insult Mike personally; but I WILL correct him on perceptual errors and factual points...
Having said that: I DO enjoy seeing what he comes up with... He's so far outside the box; that I doubt he can even see it at times!

Of course; I could run afoul of the Boss for a myriad of other reasons...

[finless]

LMAO!

[Bob Denman]

It always helps to put things in the proper perspective...

[Wildrice]

Yup! I once had a Chevy Silverado that got into it's head, that I was trying to steal it!

Bob,
Did they catch the guy?

[Bob Denman]

Did you know that they don't buy you flowers and dinner; before the body cavity search??

[Bob Denman]

I don't smoke...

But I sure did feel like I was on fire!

[Bob Denman]

I just thought of something...
Mike was complaining about me being a serial Hijacker of threads: I've been proving him right!!

[Deanna777]

Here is the newest picture of the D.E.S.S. KEY CODE on my 2014RTS-SE6: I tried both keys and got the same D.E.S.S. error code, I also turned the key 4 to 5 cycles, and I DID NOT LET THE SYSTEM SHUT DOWN, the dealer told me this ( via phone call last week) I was at home when this occurred. BRP must get a grip on this asap. Deanna