I'd be concerned about the heat from the copper in the sun. I like the PVC idea better.
Also, if you haven't already thought of it. Use the foamy pipe insulation around the parts that abut your Spyder.
Originally Posted by Hberninger
You might want the foamy pipe insulation around all the tubing as a protection for Teddy. If copper tubing is used, it would keep it from getting hot in the sun.
Originally Posted by RTVIPER
I agree with the foam pipe insulation to keep it from getting hot. Without the foam pipe insulation, that could be harmful here in AZ when Temps get 110+.
The copper tubing will ultimately be coated in some manner, not left bare metal & most probably color matched to Teds Red Sled. The ideas floating around my head right now are that the bottom side portions of the safety cage would actually be 'wrapped' in a matching red vinyl fabric that I picked up a while back when I tried our first attempt with using the PVC.
I'm not wanting a full safety cage like in the picture, that was just for illustration purposes only & to give a general idea of what I'm thinking. My main reason for attempting this, is to come up with something that allows Teddy the freedom he enjoys now, but also having a way of providing complete shelter for the little guy when we're ryding in bad weather conditions, be it freezing temps or like when we were ryding in the rain with The NY Gawkers at last years SITA. Even tho I had an enclosed carrier for Teddy, the poor lil guy was soaking wet. I'm trying to come up with something to help prevent that from ever happening again, as best as possible.
If you can't tell by my ramblings on here, my head is a very cluttered and scary place, but at least I know this. Here's my thinkings on this so far.
I was originally thinking of using the Ram Mount Ball bases that I already have installed on the passenger elbow pads, but another idea popped into my head & going that route wouldn't provide enough structural support for it. Maybe installing a set of the Ram Balls on the hard plastic side walls of the passenger area would be better. You see, we have a full seat (now with fuel door) & also another passenger backrest on the way. The passenger backrest we have now is fine & doesn't need to be replaced. The same can't be said for our Utopia drivers backrest however. It works perfectly fine, but thru the years of trial and error with properly setting up the Teddy-Cam system, I've had to cut wholes in the back leather cover to accomodate one of his cameras, so the rear of it doesn't look all that good. That gave me the idea of using the new Passenger backrest that we'll be getting with the new seat and somehow incorporating it into this new safety cage design of Teddys, much like how we have his set-up now, just using the new passenger backrest basically as the front of his new safety cage, replacing the existing Utopia backrest. I'm just trying to work out the mounting of it in my head. I'll need to wait til we either get Teds Sled back from the dealer or the new one .............................
TBC....... work work work
Last edited by CyncySpyder; 03-22-2013 at 07:05 AM.
Dave,
I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoy reading your posts. Your creativity and inventiveness are an inspiration to those of us who are sometimes too timid and overly cautious to tackle modifications. It took me three weeks after I received my Bajaron sway bar to work up the nerve to install it, but I received inspiration from your posts and did it.
Bernie--
RT-S (Blue) with Power Sports Wrap Racing Stripes
BajaRon's Sway Bar
Kewl Metal Gizmo Mount
Rivco Flag Mounts
NBV Highway Pegs
Reminds me of that line from Jurassic Park about standing on the shoulders of giants
Originally Posted by Hberninger
Dave, I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoy reading your posts. Your creativity and inventiveness are an inspiration to those of us who are sometimes too timid and overly cautious to tackle modifications. It took me three weeks after I received my Bajaron sway bar to work up the nerve to install it, but I received inspiration from your posts and did it.
I really appreciate your acknowledgement & am Happy that we were able to provide you with the inspiration that you needed at the time. If you've had any chance to take your Spyder out & give the new RonBar a try, I'm sure you're likely to agree, it was well worth the effort, no???
Inspiration can be a funny thing & I for one would be lost without this Fantastic Forum, so full of knowledgable people, most of whom, like myself, are more than willing to share whatever we can with those that seek it. Thanks for letting one of many know that our time and energy spent here isn't a wasteful thing after all
Uh Oh.... I went dig'n around my brain & look what came out
Ok, here's a very crude napkin rendering of the beginning of what's floating around in my nog'n
This is just the beginning of my thought process. Basically replacing the Utopia with another stock backrest and then replacing the multitude of Teddy's portable carriers with a 'built in' unit using the copper tubing mounted to the rear passenger area using Ram Ball Mounts. This much pictured I have pretty well figured out. The problem that I'm having with my thought process is continuing this upward to support either the Sun-Canopy we are currently using, or coming up with a new one. Then along with that challenge, I'd like to somehow devise a way, that when we get caught in bad weather, that I could somehow affix something to the open areas to in effect, close them off and protect Teddy from the elements, be it cold or rain. I'm thinking of possibly using either some form of clear Vinyl or maybe even a sturdy plexiglass surround that could be removable, so he could have it open when its nice and warm, but closed off, yet still visible when in bad conditions. I know I'm reaching here, but if I don't try I'll never know. I actually had bought a large sheet of plexiglass for this purpose, but I ended up using it on Louis cage, to help with all the valcano dust going everywhere everytime the lil furball would take a bath. But I can always get another sheet, but I'm still far from needing it at this point. Sooooooooo.............. any ideas out there?????
Continuing the thought process- pics are worth a thousand words right ..............
Goals:
Goal is simple.
A semi-affixed solution providing protection from the elements (sun, rain, cold, heat) while also allowing Teddy a safe & secure environment to enjoy his ryde along with me. This includes him being able to see & BE SEEN by his many fans along the way.
Using one of his many doggy-beds with a pad for the base of the foundation. In summer, we have modular Ice-Packs that can be inserted under his pad, providing some relief from the stifling heat, but having a sun-canopy is paramount to help this be effective, especially for a black dog. Likewise in winter, we can insert his electric heating-pad under his bed-pad to help provide a warming heat source.
Also need storage for all his 'stuff' that we have to take along with us, especially on long road trips. I can probably figure out a way to incorporate pockets into the red vinyl fabric that will be used to create the side walls of the base, just like how many of his regular carriers use. 083.jpg085.jpg3-6-11-SpyderHawkLeather 004.jpg045.jpg2011-10-08 10.33.52.jpg
OK, this is a pictorial (sort-of) of what we're working with. Stock passenger seat area, add doggy-bed as the base, insert Teddy. The carrier with the open door & Teddy giving you the 'Stink Eye' is cause he absolutely hates being confined inside it, so that's why I'm trying to come up with something that is open most of the time, but can be inclosed while allowing him to still see out when needed. The last pic shows another of his carriers with the side pockets on it, that we use regularly and find valuable for ease of access to things like his lead, ball, treats etc........
We now interrupt our regularly scheduled progaming for this important update
Ok, so yesterday I went and had the EMG (nerve test) done on my hand and forearm. Not that bad, til the doctor got to the needle part of the test & I had to warn him that I'm a wuss when it comes to needles and have a history of passing out But I made it thru with just mild discomfort and no sleeping
Seems I do show signs of an elbow injury on my right arm, as the signal from the upper part of the arm to the hand makes it there fine, just slower than my left side. My wrist however shows definate signs of Carpal Tunnal to all three the thumb, index & middle fingers on my right hand. He didn't really understand why I'm only having issues with just my index finger, as all three tested pretty much the same, poorly.
He explained that the EMG test ONLY tests the nerves and nothing else like the bones, tendons etc.... and that I could still possibly have another issue concerning another part of my anatomy............... JOY So now I wait to see the Hand Specialist again next Wednesday to see what he recommends doing next & how to proceed.
My last Ocupational Therapy session was on Tuesday & the therapist & I both agreed continuing was futile so that would be it til the Specialist can get a handle on whats going on. I hate complaining and whining and I know alot of ppl have life much worse than I, but living like this on a daily basis is rather miserable. Granted, better than being dead, just frustrating more than anything.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming..............
Oh yeah, PS.........................
No call from the shop and still no sled in the garage way to kick a man when he's down
Ok, here's a very crude napkin rendering of the beginning of what's floating around in my nog'n
This is just the beginning of my thought process. Basically replacing the Utopia with another stock backrest and then replacing the multitude of Teddy's portable carriers with a 'built in' unit using the copper tubing mounted to the rear passenger area using Ram Ball Mounts. This much pictured I have pretty well figured out. The problem that I'm having with my thought process is continuing this upward to support either the Sun-Canopy we are currently using, or coming up with a new one. Then along with that challenge, I'd like to somehow devise a way, that when we get caught in bad weather, that I could somehow affix something to the open areas to in effect, close them off and protect Teddy from the elements, be it cold or rain. I'm thinking of possibly using either some form of clear Vinyl or maybe even a sturdy plexiglass surround that could be removable, so he could have it open when its nice and warm, but closed off, yet still visible when in bad conditions. I know I'm reaching here, but if I don't try I'll never know. I actually had bought a large sheet of plexiglass for this purpose, but I ended up using it on Louis cage, to help with all the valcano dust going everywhere everytime the lil furball would take a bath. But I can always get another sheet, but I'm still far from needing it at this point. Sooooooooo.............. any ideas out there?????
Having just worked on Picklehead's RT with the Diamond R arm rests I think they would be a good foundation for building a Teddy Deluxe Pad. The arm rests are solidly mounted under the seat. Take the padding off and use the flat metal to design the bottom bucket and also the sun roof.
Doc
[QUOTE=CyncySpyder;593071]Ok, here's a very crude napkin rendering of the beginning of what's floating around in my nog'n
This is just the beginning of my thought process. Basically replacing the Utopia with another stock backrest and then replacing the multitude of Teddy's portable carriers with a 'built in' unit using the copper tubing mounted to the rear passenger area using Ram Ball Mounts. This much pictured I have pretty well figured out. The problem that I'm having with my thought process is continuing this upward to support either the Sun-Canopy we are currently using, or coming up with a new one. Then along with that challenge, I'd like to somehow devise a way, that when we get caught in bad weather, that I could somehow affix something to the open areas to in effect, close them off and protect Teddy from the elements, be it cold or rain. I'm thinking of possibly using either some form of clear Vinyl or maybe even a sturdy plexiglass surround that could be removable, so he could have it open when its nice and warm, but closed off, yet still visible when in bad conditions. I know I'm reaching here, but if I don't try I'll never know. I actually had bought a large sheet of plexiglass for this purpose, but I ended up using it on Louis cage, to help with all the valcano dust going everywhere everytime the lil furball would take a bath. But I can always get another sheet, but I'm still far from needing it at this point.
That reminded me of the line of the song from the misical Oklahoma: "Isinglass curtains that roll right down whenever there's a change in the weather".
It is a form of mica that used to be used for windows/roll down blinds in horse drawn carriages, way back when.
Darrell and I love reading about your adventures with Teddy.
I would like to know about the clippers you got for doing Teddy haircut.
I have 5 poms and there coat is really thick and we are having problems finding clippers that can get
though it. Please post what you now use for teddy and how you like them.
Thank you
Give Teddy a hug from Miss Angel, Miss Nova, Miss Gigi, Mr. Sparkie and Mr. Ricky who is also covered in all black fur,
Darrell & Cindy
2011 Orbital Blue CanAm Spyder RT-S se5 w/ Communication System & trailer hitch, Arm Rests, Elkas shocks, Baja Ron swaybar & spark plugs and wires, Custom dynamatics fender lights & third brake light, Seal floorboard "PUP" floor boards, CycleMate utility Trailer and Sena 20s with dongle.
My wife and I really enjoy your posts and follow your adventures with anticipation. Today she said to me "how come you don't put some ice packs under the seat for me when it gets hot like Dave does for Teddy?". I said "I don't do that because you are frigid enough as it is."
Was that wrong?
Name: Eric Heims
Red 2016 RTS, Diamond R Armrests, Ram X Mount, Doc Humphreys Dampener, BajaRon Swaybar, Spyderpops "Critter Splitter"
"It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt." John Philpot Curran 1790
Dave,My wife and I really enjoy your posts and follow your adventures with anticipation. Today she said to me "how come you don't put some ice packs under the seat for me when it gets hot like Dave does for Teddy?". I said "I don't do that because you are frigid enough as it is."Was that wrong?
Teddy likes his dog house, but it sounds like your about to be sent to yours. Hope u like yours as much as Teddy likes his after that comment ~ lol
Darrell and I love reading about your adventures with Teddy.
I would like to know about the clippers you got for doing Teddy haircut.
I have 5 poms and there coat is really thick and we are having problems finding clippers that can get
though it. Please post what you now use for teddy and how you like them.
Thank you
Give Teddy a hug from Miss Angel, Miss Nova, Miss Gigi, Mr. Sparkie and Mr. Ricky who is also covered in all black fur,
These are Andis ProClip AG2 2 speed with detachable blade system & I also got an additional blade made by Oster that's a 3/8" A5 replacement blade, that way I don't have to worry about seperate attachments. Worked like a hot knife thru butter, so much easier for both of us.
Thanks for the suggestion, but just not in the cards
Originally Posted by Doc - Riverside
Having just worked on Picklehead's RT with the Diamond R arm rests I think they would be a good foundation for building a Teddy Deluxe Pad. The arm rests are solidly mounted under the seat. Take the padding off and use the flat metal to design the bottom bucket and also the sun roof.
Doc
No doubt, those are sweet & your probably correct, they'd make for a great foundation. But at a cost of over $300 thats just not in the budget, as there really isn't a budget for doing this & I have to try n dream this up as cheap as possible using as many spare parts that we've got laying around here to make this work. Heck, the shop still has the Sled & it makes me nautious to think of how much that bill is gonna be do appreciate the suggestion tho
Last edited by CyncySpyder; 03-23-2013 at 08:28 PM.
Correct you are, but I think it'll work for our limited application
Originally Posted by Kagey_98
Copper is a high theft item. It is also not a structural material, as it is a "soft" metal, and will not hold its form if there is a accident.
Considering we're using canvass & nylon carriers now & for the past 3 years, I'm thinking this should be an improvement over that, if I can get it all figured out & functional
These are Andis ProClip AG2 2 speed with detachable blade system & I also got an additional blade made by Oster that's a 3/8" A5 replacement blade, that way I don't have to worry about seperate attachments. Worked like a hot knife thru butter, so much easier for both of us.
Thank you Dave. We will give it a try..
Darrell & Cindy
2011 Orbital Blue CanAm Spyder RT-S se5 w/ Communication System & trailer hitch, Arm Rests, Elkas shocks, Baja Ron swaybar & spark plugs and wires, Custom dynamatics fender lights & third brake light, Seal floorboard "PUP" floor boards, CycleMate utility Trailer and Sena 20s with dongle.
10oz just a guess but I bet it looked like a bear shedding lol He was pretty fuzzy at the grand opening when we saw him last.
2012 RT Limited. Flag graphics, Lower vader wings LEDs, Lower day runner LEDs, Uper turn signal LEDs, Tip LEDs, Finder strip LEDs, Mud flap running an turn LEDs, Inside morrirs turn LEDs, 3-4 brake LEDs, Blue LEDs top under dash, Cup hollders, Large foot rest, HWY foot rest, K&N air flter, GloRyders with remote, Elka shocks 1+R, Soomthspyder, GoPro Hero3, BRP hitch, Diamond shadow trailer.
Anyone have a guess on how much his coat that was removed weighs, either in grams or ounces?
10 ounces ?
Darrell & Cindy
2011 Orbital Blue CanAm Spyder RT-S se5 w/ Communication System & trailer hitch, Arm Rests, Elkas shocks, Baja Ron swaybar & spark plugs and wires, Custom dynamatics fender lights & third brake light, Seal floorboard "PUP" floor boards, CycleMate utility Trailer and Sena 20s with dongle.
OMG!!! is that a Tribble???? If it is that changes everything!
2012 RT Limited. Flag graphics, Lower vader wings LEDs, Lower day runner LEDs, Uper turn signal LEDs, Tip LEDs, Finder strip LEDs, Mud flap running an turn LEDs, Inside morrirs turn LEDs, 3-4 brake LEDs, Blue LEDs top under dash, Cup hollders, Large foot rest, HWY foot rest, K&N air flter, GloRyders with remote, Elka shocks 1+R, Soomthspyder, GoPro Hero3, BRP hitch, Diamond shadow trailer.