Dave in all of my years attending Biketoberfest, I have seen it's popularity dwindle and felt last year was a real disappointment. IMHO. I get my fair share of Daytona at Bike Week! Spyder owners seem to spend their days at the BRP trailer. Organized rides seem to be a much better venue and activities specifically for Spyder Owners, (not that all riders wouldn't be welcome) I think would have more appeal. Biketoberfest is one of the reasons November is an alternative possibility.