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    Default How do I put my RT Ltd into Neutral and shut off parking brake alarm?

    I’m a new Spyder owner and have a 2023 RT Limited. There are times, like when wanting to check tire pressure, when I want it in Neutral so I can slowly roll it. That means I want the parking brake off. But if I shut the Spyder down with the parking brake off it gives me 20 seconds of screaming at me. How do we shut the bike down, in neutral, with the parking brake off without triggering 20 minutes of misery?
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    Fronts really don't matter for valve stem orientation. I usually note where the rear one is, turn bike on and disengage parking brake and roll it to where I think I'll have access. I usually get it right, you can access the rear one as long as it's in the back 1/4 of the revolution or so. Then put it back in park and turn it off. That's how I do it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderMinimalist View Post
    I’m a new Spyder owner and have a 2023 RT Limited. There are times, like when wanting to check tire pressure, when I want it in Neutral so I can slowly roll it. That means I want the parking brake off. But if I shut the Spyder down with the parking brake off it gives me 20 seconds of screaming at me. How do we shut the bike down, in neutral, with the parking brake off without triggering 20 minutes of misery?
    My 2020RTL will beep for about 15 seconds, definitely NOT 20 MINUTES!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderMinimalist View Post
    I’m a new Spyder owner and have a 2023 RT Limited. There are times, like when wanting to check tire pressure, when I want it in Neutral so I can slowly roll it. That means I want the parking brake off. But if I shut the Spyder down with the parking brake off it gives me 20 seconds of screaming at me. How do we shut the bike down, in neutral, with the parking brake off without triggering 20 minutes of misery?
    You don't!

    As others have said, it's only 20 seconds, and it's made that way so that you don't walk off after shutting your bike down only to have your bike roll away & potentially be damaged/cause a lot of damage all cos you forgot to set the Parking Brake!! And the SE5 or SE6 Spyders WILL roll once the engine is stopped without the Park Brake even if you're not in Neutral, cos they both need the engine to run to engage any gear!

    So the 20 Seconds of alarm yelling at you is basically the tiny price you pay for being reminded that you forgot to set the Park Brake; only as a result of having that alarm to protect you from yourself, you also hafta put up with the alarm for a whole 20 seconds when you choose to leave the Parking Brake off deliberately!

    It's a "see-saw's & teeter-totter's" thing!
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    You Can’t! If the brake's not on when bike is turned off, it defaults to alarm for 20 seconds! However, you do not have to be in N to move around; it's easier, yes; but it's not needed just for a few feet of movement with the SE's. There are also a few different threads here on valve stem extensions & alternatives to make tire inflation/checking easier!
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    When I stop with not wanting the parking brake on, I put my gloves tightly on the dash to somewhat quieten the alarm.
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    very simple turn key on release parking brake roll to spot set p brake turn key off always park in neutral

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy View Post
    very simple turn key on release parking brake roll to spot set p brake turn key off always park in neutral
    I do as Fatboy describes, all the time, especially when checking rear tire pressure to get the valve stem in a reachable position. Remember, when you roll your Spyder to where you want, engage the parking brake before leaving the machine (whether the key is in the on or off position). Also, for safety while rolling the Spyder around, always be in a position to engage the parking brake in case the Spyder gets away from you.
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    Although I always do, you don't need to put the Spyder in Neutral before you shut off the engine. The SE transmission will allow you to move the Spyder by hand when it's in 1st or Reverse, it just takes a little more effort than when it's in Neutral. When I pull into the level floor garage, I routinely tap it into N, set the parking brake and turn off the engine. It becomes habit. Since your new to the Y-Game, you'll develop your own routines for everything.

    Just remember one thing, don't turn off the ignition when you're off the machine on the left side unless you see the parking brake light flashing on the display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderMinimalist View Post
    I’m a new Spyder owner and have a 2023 RT Limited. There are times, like when wanting to check tire pressure, when I want it in Neutral so I can slowly roll it. That means I want the parking brake off. But if I shut the Spyder down with the parking brake off it gives me 20 seconds of screaming at me. How do we shut the bike down, in neutral, with the parking brake off without triggering 20 minutes of misery?
    If you don't want to hear the alarm when you turn the key off, then don't turn the key off. Just kill the engine with the Kill Switch. How long does it take you to check tire pressures, anyway. (reminds me of an old joke)


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    As others have said, shut it off, then just turn the key to on without actually starting the machine. now turn the parking brake off and roll to where you want it. Set the parking brake and turn key off again.
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    Whenever my Spyder is parked in my garage, it's in neutral and the parking brake is always off. My key stays with it, too. I also use a plastic wheel chock to be safe. I don't think twice about the 20 seconds of beeping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy View Post
    very simple turn key on release parking brake roll to spot set p brake turn key off always park in neutral
    Yep, that's the answer. At least it works for our two Spyders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy View Post
    very simple turn key on release parking brake roll to spot set p brake turn key off always park in neutral
    Quote Originally Posted by LongIsland View Post
    I do as Fatboy describes, all the time, especially when checking rear tire pressure to get the valve stem in a reachable position. Remember, when you roll your Spyder to where you want, engage the parking brake before leaving the machine (whether the key is in the on or off position). Also, for safety while rolling the Spyder around, always be in a position to engage the parking brake in case the Spyder gets away from you.
    Quote Originally Posted by GrayRyder View Post
    As others have said, shut it off, then just turn the key to on without actually starting the machine. now turn the parking brake off and roll to where you want it. Set the parking brake and turn key off again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arion View Post
    Yep, that's the answer. At least it works for our two Spyders.
    For many of us, that's ^^ the simplest solution!

    HOWEVER, I'd strongly recommend that you don't do that too often if your bike is parked up for the winter & you're not actively managing the battery's state of charge!!

    Why not?? Simple - every time you turn the key on, the system goes thru its 'Start-up' process, which is a noticeable drain on your battery; and once it's started that process, the system keeps everything ON for a while, regardless of if you turn the key off pretty much straight away - it's not 'tens of minutes', but it's certainly long enough to add up to a significant drain on your battery's 'state of charge' over time &/or repetitions!!

    So if you think you might need to move your Spyder more than just a couple of times during your annual lay-up period, then unless you either ACTIVELY manage your battery's state of charge during any extended lay-up (saaayy, more than a couple of weeks... ) and by 'actively', I DON'T mean just connecting it to a tender/maintainer and simply leaving it for a few months; you REALLY will be better off simply turning your bike OFF without setting the park brake and putting up with the few seconds of beeping while it reminds you that you've chosen to do that!!

    Simples, really!
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    Can also get a "FOBO Bike 2" tire pressure monitor set of valve caps, then you just need to look at your phone to check pressures on all tires at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two2Three View Post
    Can also get a "FOBO Bike 2" tire pressure monitor set of valve caps, then you just need to look at your phone to check pressures on all tires at once.
    Yep, but that doesn’t solve the issue of how to orient the rear tyre when FOBO says it needs air, Two2. Like many others above, I turn the ignition on, release the brake (after making sure I’m not parked on a slope ), roll the RT, reapply the brake, turn off the ignition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    For many of us, that's ^^ the simplest solution!

    HOWEVER, I'd strongly recommend that you don't do that too often if your bike is parked up for the winter & you're not actively managing the battery's state of charge!!

    Why not?? Simple - every time you turn the key on, the system goes thru its 'Start-up' process, which is a noticeable drain on your battery; and once it's started that process, the system keeps everything ON for a while, regardless of if you turn the key off pretty much straight away - it's not 'tens of minutes', but it's certainly long enough to add up to a significant drain on your battery's 'state of charge' over time &/or repetitions!!

    So if you think you might need to move your Spyder more than just a couple of times during your annual lay-up period, then unless you either ACTIVELY manage your battery's state of charge during any extended lay-up (saaayy, more than a couple of weeks... ) and by 'actively', I DON'T mean just connecting it to a tender/maintainer and simply leaving it for a few months; you REALLY will be better off simply turning your bike OFF without setting the park brake and putting up with the few seconds of beeping while it reminds you that you've chosen to do that!!

    Simples, really!
    As always it seems, good advice. You certainly help keep many of us on the right track. Thanks from one member!
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