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    Default RT Lacking Top End Power

    I rode with a group of 2 wheel riders that were heavy on the throttle this weekend and as I was at the tail end of the group I had some close calls while passing trying to keep up. My ride has great power up to about 85 but after that it is a led sled and barely can make 100 wot. Is this normal? She runs great and is rocket in the lower gears. By the way they were amazed that I could keep up with them as several commented when we stopped for fuel. After that I told them I was doing the speed limit so ride on without me. It was lonely but much less stressful, lol.

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    Its a touring bike not a sport bike ! If you want to drive foolish and take chances with your life then go for it but while your out there trying to do 100 taking chances you put me and everyone else out there at risk .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestratos View Post
    I rode with a group of 2 wheel riders that were heavy on the throttle this weekend and as I was at the tail end of the group I had some close calls while passing trying to keep up. My ride has great power up to about 85 but after that it is a led sled and barely can make 100 wot. Is this normal? She runs great and is rocket in the lower gears. By the way they were amazed that I could keep up with them as several commented when we stopped for fuel. After that I told them I was doing the speed limit so ride on without me. It was lonely but much less stressful, lol.
    I've noticed this also. My RT doesn't have the acceleration that my GS did... so I've had to adjust my passing zone parameters... allow more room for passing. When riding in a group, passing needs to be considered an INDIVIDUAL decision.. not a group one. Each person needs to determine if they have enough room. Sometimes if I'm in the lead and pass some cars, I'll hang out in the left lane for an extended amount to let those behind me know it's still clear ahead... but those cases are pretty rare.

    Indeed, the RT is a touring bike and needs to be treated as such.

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    Those bashing this rider for going fast need to ease up. You don't know the area or circumstances of him going 100. Maybe he's in an area where it's allowed? Plenty of areas in Texas are 85 mph where people go 100. I cruise 85-90 quite often... and have been up to 128 on my GS. Maybe you guys need to take a ride with some of us Hooligans sometime......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestratos View Post
    I rode with a group of 2 wheel riders that were heavy on the throttle this weekend and as I was at the tail end of the group I had some close calls while passing trying to keep up. My ride has great power up to about 85 but after that it is a led sled and barely can make 100 wot. Is this normal? She runs great and is rocket in the lower gears. By the way they were amazed that I could keep up with them as several commented when we stopped for fuel. After that I told them I was doing the speed limit so ride on without me. It was lonely but much less stressful, lol.
    When people ask me about my Spyder I tell them It plays best up to about 85 and that it doesn't play at a 100 plus like my BMW would but that's good as I'm getting to old to do that anymore and I was lucky for all the trips I made where I covered a couple hundred miles in a couple hours or less scary to think back on that now
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfraser View Post
    Its a touring bike not a sport bike ! If you want to drive foolish and take chances with your life then go for it but while your out there trying to do 100 taking chances you put me and everyone else out there at risk .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I've noticed this also. My RT doesn't have the acceleration that my GS did...
    That shouldn't come as a surprise. It is 35% heavier, has less horspower, has more frontal area, and carries more cargo. You don't expect a Chevy Tahoe to have Corvette performance, and you probably shouldn't expect an RT to be leader of the pack, either. It isn't knocking anybody's desire to go fast, just their expectations for doing so on the vehicle they have selected. If you want to go to the moon, you need to buy a rocket ship...it's that simple.
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    [QUOTE=NancysToy;502853]That shouldn't come as a surprise. It is 35% heavier, has less horspower, has more frontal area, and carries more cargo. You don't expect a Chevy Tahoe to have Corvette performance, and you probably shouldn't expect an RT to be leader of the pack, either. It isn't knocking anybody's desire to go fast, just their expectations for doing so on the vehicle they have selected. If you want to go to the moon, you need to buy a rocket ship...it's that

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    with everyone comments on the RT's power. Sorry Bluestratos, but the RT was designed with more torque for pulling trailers, so it does impact passing at high speeds. I did manage to kick my RT with the RT-622 trailer at 120 mph, but I could tell that I had to hit the throttle hard for this, and I was passing a dumptruck that was going 85 in a 60 zone. Although I did enjoy it, it was not a pretty experience (for my wife anyway). Moral of the story: The high speed on the RT is there, but it's not meant to be a speedtrike.
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    Is the RT geared different than the RS, or is it just the changes to the engine to add low end torque at the expense of HP?

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    Perhaps just a tiny little bit of clarification..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    That shouldn't come as a surprise. It is 35% heavier, has less horspower, has more frontal area, and carries more cargo. You don't expect a Chevy Tahoe to have Corvette performance, and you probably shouldn't expect an RT to be leader of the pack, either. It isn't knocking anybody's desire to go fast, just their expectations for doing so on the vehicle they have selected. If you want to go to the moon, you need to buy a rocket ship...it's that simple.

    I knew what I was in for when I switched to the RT. My perspective was that it wasn't anywhere near as 'doggish' as people were saying out here... and I still maintain that perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestratos View Post
    I rode with a group of 2 wheel riders that were heavy on the throttle this weekend and as I was at the tail end of the group I had some close calls while passing trying to keep up. My ride has great power up to about 85 but after that it is a led sled and barely can make 100 wot. Is this normal? She runs great and is rocket in the lower gears. By the way they were amazed that I could keep up with them as several commented when we stopped for fuel. After that I told them I was doing the speed limit so ride on without me. It was lonely but much less stressful, lol.
    Keep it out of 5th gear as long as you can. My personal practice when passing is to make sure I have plenty of room and use as little of it as possible. Drop one gear and wide open till I get back in line. Plus with the Two Brothers exhaust, it just sounds cool as hell.

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    Lol... I love this place,,,

    I was asking if I had a problem not for anyones oppinion on how I ride or the risks I choose to take, lol. So back to the question, is this typical of the bike to puke out around 100?

    I was running red line in each gear, even pulled over red line in 4th. I understand this is a touring bike, lol, but is this best it can do for top end

    If you got 120 pulling a trailer then I must have something amiss.

    By the way, no offense taken by the off topic comments made here but for the future I need not hear them.

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    I think I recall reading that 105 was about the limit where wind resistance exceeds HP...

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    I do not have a complaint about the power the RTS puts out. For me, IMO, the RT is fast enough to do most passing that I would do. I am a speed limit plus 5 person and content with that. I only use the 5th gear when I am cruising at 65 or more on the expressway. Cranking it to 80+ in fourth is as exciting as I prefer to go.

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    Ahhh, that makes sense then, I may have gotten to 105 given enough time. Thanks :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestratos View Post
    Ahhh, that makes sense then, I may have gotten to 105 given enough time. Thanks :-)
    I have seen 102 or 103 a couple times but have run out of flat straight road before I could get it any faster than that. I have a flat straight road to try it on and as soon as the corn is gone, I can see for about a mile in every direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docdoru View Post
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    Thats Heavy!!! I gonna try to figure that out while I,m Burning down the backrounds on my GS this afternoon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestratos View Post
    If you got 120 pulling a trailer then I must have something amiss.

    No... just push that throttle all the way down in 5th gear, have an angry dumptruck driver trying to pass you on a 4 lane-merging-into-2-in-half-a-mile rural highway and a wife screaming half her wits on your ear. And it took a good 30-40 seconds to go from 65 to 120.
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    lol... Ok... under those circumstances I fully understand, lol...not a fair fight by the truck driver.. jeeeeez, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestratos View Post
    Lol... I love this place,,,

    I was asking if I had a problem not for anyones oppinion on how I ride or the risks I choose to take, lol. So back to the question, is this typical of the bike to puke out around 100?

    I was running red line in each gear, even pulled over red line in 4th. I understand this is a touring bike, lol, but is this best it can do for top end

    If you got 120 pulling a trailer then I must have something amiss.

    By the way, no offense taken by the off topic comments made here but for the future I need not hear them.

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    I think you're Spyder is just fine. Not sure about someone going 120 with a trailer and a passenger..... maybe on an extreme downhill, with the wind behind them......

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