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    As the title says I was broadsided by a cage driver in a supermarket

    parking lot 5 weeks ago. I am gonna try to tell the story, but will jump

    around as things come to mind. The other insurance company has

    dropped the ball, so i had to go through mine. The other insurance

    company that has a solar planet named after it, is suppose to take

    my statement this coming Monday.



    (This photo is after I moved my bike so that the parked car where the two ladies are standing on the left could get out)


    It occurred in an uncontrolled

    small intersection where his vehicle plowed into the right side with

    the main strike occurring on my right rear bag shell. I was traveling

    approx. 8-12 mph and am guessing the other vehicle was traveling

    the same I didn't see the vehicle until about 12 feet from impact I

    remember hitting the horn and seeing the cage passengers face in

    shock, as I was catapulted striking my windshield with my full face

    helmet and traveling approx 15-20 feet in the air at the eleven o'clock

    position, had it been at ten o'clock I could possibly have been seriously

    injured, because there is a metal shopping return cart stand full of shopping

    carts. I remember in just that instance of impact as to not hold onto the

    handle bars of the bike, that people have snapped there wrists doing that.

    I believe I learned that in the motorcycle safety course i took 1 1/2 yrs ago.

    When I landed, I landed on my backside. I remember the feeling as if it was

    yesterday. I distinctly remember the back of my head striking the pavement,

    and the cu-sh inside the helmet taking the entire blow ! I stayed on the ground

    until the fire department got there. I remember reading a post here where

    it was said to not let anyone remove your helmet except medical professionals

    . When they got there the LAFD got me upright and checked me out. I had a

    bruise on my tailbone but the BRP leather jacket with armor on the elbows a

    nd shoulders helped protect me. I had these really cool jeans that had suspenders a

    ttached, and the metal sockets ripped out I also had real rugged over the

    ankle leather boots, and my leather gloves on. The paramedics asked if I

    wanted to go to the hospital, and I declined. I could tell that only my tailbone

    was hurting and I had no back pain what so ever. Plus I had to work and meet

    a client that night and knew that going to emergency would be an all night

    ordeal. (believe me if I was injured I would have gone.) My bike when it was

    struck was pushed over on it's left side (as the left bag had scrape marks

    from the pavement that was not noticed till the next day.)
    and then bounced

    back and continued on past me striking the second car parked in the row next

    to where I lay. My RT put a small dent in that cars bumper and my trunk hood was

    all messed up. I asked a bystander if he could shut off my bike by pressing the red

    button on the handlebar. When I was laying on the ground waiting for the paramedics

    to arrive I text-ed my wife from my cell saying I was OK but if she could

    come over just in case my bike was not ride-able. After the Fire dept left the LAPD

    showed up but would not take a report since all 3 parties had valid ID and insurance.

    There was a security guard who was a witness, but his security firm that is employed

    by the supermarket chain won't release info unless subpoenaed.


    the repair bill is $8,144 + another $480 for BRP helmet, the mic cord got

    messed up, and my clothing which they don't make those jeans anymore


    My mechanic went over the bike with a fine tooth comb and said that the

    bike is sound just a lot of cosmetic damage. My tailbone after about 2

    weeks of putting ice on it and then ice/ heat, took just another week of

    limping around and being ginger on it. And now I can say I am physically

    100% ok!


    And I am embarrassed that even though I was not at fault I didn't have

    that 6th sense to think about what if ! I can never take for granted that at

    any moment I could be struck by a vehicle. Maybe me mentioning this might

    help someone who reads it. I was very very lucky.


    I am announcing this now even though my bike won't be put back together

    for another 10 days or so. I am going to the International motorcycle show

    tomorrow, and wanted my fellow spyderlovers to know why I have been absent

    from here. Hope to see some spyderlovers there.

    Wife is telling me right now that we have to go.................... I will be back later

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    Wow my brother!!! So glad it wasn't worse.


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    Your insurance? I'm pretty sure that even though the police won't get invovled in that enviroment, you can still pursue the other vehicles insurance. Your insurance isn't going after the other vehicle? Parking lot collisions are actually fairly common, I don't know why people think they can use the "parking lot" as a pass since the law enforcement is not involved. You better tell your agen to get his butt in gear.
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    Glad you're okay, and that your Spyder is repairable.

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    Glad to hear you escaped with minor injuries... these stories are always like a wakeup call to be even more careful about the idiots on the roads. Thanks for sharing the details with us.

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    Things could have been so much worse. Man they make bikes every day!! I wouldn't let his insurance company off the hook so easily. Pursue, pursue, pursue!!

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    Thumbs up Thank God for small miracles

    WOW!!! Thanks for sharing this & Teddy & I BOTH are glad that you are OK. I'm sure your shop will get your Spyder back in tip-top shape. Hope your insurance ordeal gets worked out, that really sounds like a mess

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    I was just thinking about you and was going to send you a PM. Glad you're okay Bro.

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    Glad to hear it wasn't worse. I hope everything gets worked out soon, you heal quickly, and are back on the road real fast. Thanks for letting us know.
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    Sorry to hear about the accident, but glad you are back to tell us about it. The bike can be fixed, and hopefully you will fully recover from your injury.

    This is a good argument for ATGATT. One never knows when bad things will happen. It sounds like the gear prevented you from getting hurt worse.

    Keep us posted--and yes, pursue the insurance companies for a fair settlement.
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    Myself, along with SRA-SD will see you there TB. Glad you're ok. Sucks the bike is in the 'hospital' though.
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    You can bet your butt that if you had been taken to the hospital there would have been a police report.
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    Glad you are Ok, hope your back on the road soon.
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    Glad to hear you are okay.
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    The fact that you're okay pretty much makes everything else pale in comparison! Don't let the insurance company battles wear you down! If this bonehead is at fault, his company WILL have to payf ro the damages; no matter how many delaying tactics they throw at you..
    So fight the good fight and don't back down!
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    Glad to hear that you are OK.

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    Ditto what Bob said.

    Glad you are OK. Parking lots are often worse than the streets because the ones who pay little attention to their driving on the street,, pay NO attention in parking lots.

    Hope it all works out on your Spyder.

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    Over $8000 in damages is a lot. Did you have damage to the front left suspension and wheel? Did the handle bars contact the pavement? Glad you are OK. I think I would have x-rayed my butt bone for possible fracture though. Let us know how the repairs go.

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    My car has also been hit in a parking lot and just like you the police would not complete a report due to it being on private property. My insurance company did go after the other company and about a year later we received another check as settlement. Really surprised me that they took the other company to arbitration to settle the claim.

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    I am not gonna let the other insurance company off the hook.

    I just wanted to get the ball rolling with my co., AAA who has been
    fantastic. They sent an adjuster out the first week to look
    at the bike after the dealership was able to catalog all the
    necessary parts to be ordered from BRP, Custom Dynamics
    & Kewl Metal and estimate the labor involved. My insurance
    company cut them a check that day minus my $1000 deductible.

    I was able to ride home after the accident. Two days
    later I rode it down to my dealership paying special
    attention to the ride feel. To me it was still solid as
    before. But I will leave that up to the experts. So they
    test rode it , and did a visual inspection They are having
    to replace about 50 parts including both fenders, front
    bumper Rt wheel kit and windshield. I hope I can still get
    the 2010 windshield.(for me I liked it). And I had the
    chrome muffler accents that were damaged too. The only
    part they are waiting on besides some fasteners are my
    handlebar helmet locks from Kewl Metal.



    The pain from my tailbone has subsided and what has
    set in is depression from not being able to ride. (really) From
    hearing from all you and your concern that I am Ok is very
    comforting.



    ATGATT- I just had to look up the acronym, yeah I was
    fortunate to be wearing all what I had on. CA is a helmet
    state now. 40 years ago I was on the back of a motorcycle
    when a cager made a left hand turn in front of my buddy & I.
    That time I was lucky cuz I had no helmet, and only ended up
    with a scar just below my shin. That was enough for my parents
    to say no motorcycles, and I missed playing football my senior year.

    I am re living my teenage years again now ,this spyder experience means so much to me.

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    Well, TB, number 1 thing is that you're OK. It's good to hear how well you were protected by your gear.

    The bike thing and insurance companies is definitely number 2, but a very distant number 2. I would let the insurance companies worry about the hassle. Spend your time doing more important things ... like ryding! lol
    Last edited by dancogan; 12-11-2011 at 10:47 AM.
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    Glad you are OK. Hope your Spyder is fixed up good as new soon.

    I hate parking lots!!! People don't have their head in the game sometimes. Inattention is rampant.

    Glad you had enough gear to save your head. Could have been much worse.
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    Really glad you're ok but one bit of advice to ANYONE involved in an accident like this. If you're thrown off the bike and hit the pavement , especially with your head.....GO TO THE HOSPITAL to get checked out. You may not think you're hurt buit there may be injuries that don't show up until later. Going to the hospital aslo gives you an edge in case something does pop up even though the hospital may say they didn't find anything. Head injuries are notorious for later problems. I'm an ex medic for the fire dept. and have seen many accidents where there were no apparent injuries but the person died from intrnal injuries. Had one accident where the car was t boned and the driver of the car said there was nothing wrong with him and then he keeled over and died...ruptured artery and he bled to death intrnally with no pain or visible injuries. It may be bothersome to have to "take the time " to go to the ER but the life you save may be your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exwinger View Post
    Really glad you're ok but one bit of advice to ANYONE involved in an accident like this. If you're thrown off the bike and hit the pavement , especially with your head.....GO TO THE HOSPITAL to get checked out. You may not think you're hurt buit there may be injuries that don't show up until later. Going to the hospital aslo gives you an edge in case something does pop up even though the hospital may say they didn't find anything. Head injuries are notorious for later problems. I'm an ex medic for the fire dept. and have seen many accidents where there were no apparent injuries but the person died from intrnal injuries. Had one accident where the car was t boned and the driver of the car said there was nothing wrong with him and then he keeled over and died...ruptured artery and he bled to death intrnally with no pain or visible injuries. It may be bothersome to have to "take the time " to go to the ER but the life you save may be your own.
    I have been the victim of a motorcycle crash related head injury, and it is nothing to trifle with. I also made the mistake of walking away from a motorcycle accident in 1968, without a trip to the hospital or doctor. Thirty years later, I found out that I had sustained a severe acetabular fracture of the pelvis (shattered hip socket). The arthritis might have been much less severe had I undergone a repair at the time of the accident. If you haven't gone to the hospital, please visit your family doctor ASAP for a follow-up examination.
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    Default Great to hear you are safe !

    Sorry to hear about your wheels and happy to hear you faired well.Hope to see you in Durango.Your friend;Raywa3wheels
    Quote Originally Posted by TicketBait View Post
    As the title says I was broadsided by a cage driver in a supermarket parking lot 5 weeks ago. I am gonna try to tell the story, but will jump around as things come to mind. The other insurance company has dropped the ball, so i had to go through mine. The other insurance company that has a solar planet named after it, is suppose to take my statement this coming Monday.(This photo is after I moved my bike so that the parked car where the two ladies are standing on the left could get out) It occurred in an uncontrolled small intersection where his vehicle plowed into the right side with the main strike occurring on my right rear bag shell. I was traveling approx. 8-12 mph and am guessing the other vehicle was traveling the same I didn't see the vehicle until about 12 feet from impact I remember hitting the horn and seeing the cage passengers face in shock, as I was catapulted striking my windshield with my full face helmet and traveling approx 15-20 feet in the air at the eleven o'clock position, had it been at ten o'clock I could possibly have been seriously injured, because there is a metal shopping return cart stand full of shopping carts. I remember in just that instance of impact as to not hold onto the handle bars of the bike, that people have snapped there wrists doing that. I believe I learned that in the motorcycle safety course i took 1 1/2 yrs ago. When I landed, I landed on my backside. I remember the feeling as if it was yesterday. I distinctly remember the back of my head striking the pavement, and the cu-sh inside the helmet taking the entire blow ! I stayed on the ground until the fire department got there. I remember reading a post here where it was said to not let anyone remove your helmet except medical professionals. When they got there the LAFD got me upright and checked me out. I had a bruise on my tailbone but the BRP leather jacket with armor on the elbows and shoulders helped protect me. I had these really cool jeans that had suspenders attached, and the metal sockets ripped out I also had real rugged over the ankle leather boots, and my leather gloves on. The paramedics asked if I wanted to go to the hospital, and I declined. I could tell that only my tailbone was hurting and I had no back pain what so ever. Plus I had to work and meet a client that night and knew that going to emergency would be an all night ordeal. (believe me if I was injured I would have gone.) My bike when it was struck was pushed over on it's left side (as the left bag had scrape marks from the pavement that was not noticed till the next day.) and then bounced back and continued on past me striking the second car parked in the row next to where I lay. My RT put a small dent in that cars bumper and my trunk hood was all messed up. I asked a bystander if he could shut off my bike by pressing the red button on the handlebar. When I was laying on the ground waiting for the paramedics to arrive I text-ed my wife from my cell saying I was OK but if she could come over just in case my bike was not ride-able. After the Fire dept left the LAPD showed up but would not take a report since all 3 parties had valid ID and insurance. There was a security guard who was a witness, but his security firm that is employed by the supermarket chain won't release info unless subpoenaed.the repair bill is $8,144 + another $480 for BRP helmet, the mic cord got messed up, and my clothing which they don't make those jeans anymore My mechanic went over the bike with a fine tooth comb and said that the bike is sound just a lot of cosmetic damage. My tailbone after about 2 weeks of putting ice on it and then ice/ heat, took just another week of limping around and being ginger on it. And now I can say I am physically 100% ok! And I am embarrassed that even though I was not at fault I didn't have that 6th sense to think about what if ! I can never take for granted that at any moment I could be struck by a vehicle. Maybe me mentioning this might help someone who reads it. I was very very lucky.I am announcing this now even though my bike won't be put back together for another 10 days or so. I am going to the International motorcycle show tomorrow, and wanted my fellow spyderlovers to know why I have been absent from here. Hope to see some spyderlovers there.Wife is telling me right now that we have to go.................... I will be back laterTicketBait
    Quote Originally Posted by WackyDan View Post
    You can bet your butt that if you had been taken to the hospital there would have been a police report.
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