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Will Harley Davidson ever bring their reverse trike to market?

No Trike should, IMHO, be considered as a vehicle that has been designed for the mass market... Motorcycles on the whole are more of a niche market vehicle anyway...
(Again; just my humble, uninformed and otherwise unintelligent opinion)
 
No Trike should, IMHO, be considered as a vehicle that has been designed for the mass market... Motorcycles on the whole are more of a niche market vehicle anyway...
(Again; just my humble, uninformed and otherwise unintelligent opinion)

Oh I believe there are very big changes coming for the mass market apart from just fuels (Britain has a changover to 100% alternate fuels by 2050 in law, they dont have the oil left to do anything but). There will be wholesale changes in the next generation of the vehicles they drive so in 15 years time they'll be buying a very different type of vehicle as a secondary family vehicle at the least and some people will have a very different primary vehicle and the technology will be there to support it, in fact you dont have to look far to find that technology today. I'll leave that comment hanging but I love seeing video's like this that provoke my thinking.

Bear in mind this video is now 3 years old so we have moved on in leaps and bounds since then.

 
Can I buy a Harley Penster?
I don't consider an unreleased product mass market.
In fact it looks more now like it has been permanently shelved so unless you have driven one I don't think you can make any viable comments as to the handling.

And, my friend, I appreciate all the reasons you don't like the Spyder so you have the option of waiting for a Harley Penster or, I hope, you are in a position to purchase one of the more exotic brands you listed.

Good luck to you & g'day.

If there has to be luck afforded may it be afforded you, it seems you need it more.
 
No. Next question? :joke:

Oh, and to re-emphasize what was written above: you only need a VSS-like "nanny" system on a *static* reverse trike, NOT a leaning trike. Alas, there may be other mechanical considerations that preclude mass-market manufacturing of a leaning trike (reliability, perhaps? :dontknow:).

That all said, I won't be surprised when we *will* get another major-manufacturer reverse trike within the next five years. Why? Because it's obviously a successful, appealing design, AND there's a growing market for trikes as motorcyclists age.

The "leaner" is a holy grail for this niche because it removes a big chunk of the stigma that holds back traditional two-wheelers from considering adopting a trike. Sure, there will still be folks who will never give up their bikes for a trike with "training wheels" attached, but if you can make it lean, that's a huge appeal to many (even many of us, we happy merry band of Spyderlovers :doorag:).

I know many of us are disappointed that BRP hasn't put out a leaner yet, but I would be shocked if they don't, considering it's the natural evolution of the reverse trike. If BRP doesn't put one out, *someone else will,* and the "first to market" advantage will then rest with that manufacturer.

Considering the undisputed potential for a serious leaning reverse trike to instantly depress Spyder sales overnight, I can bet that BRP is desperate to be first to that market.
 
There was some info in here about the BURP-Leaner...
It controlled the amount of lean that you got with electronics and mechanicals... Depending on your speed and a whole bunch of other inputs. :shocked:
It sounds just a weeeeee bit more complicated than the current Spyders; Not for this boy! Not yet!
 
It will happen, BRP have enough patents for it to have been done pretty much successfully now, there must be a deciding factor holding them up somewhere. I think a lot of people are overlooking the amount of successful leaning scooters already in the market, scooters aren't a big market in Aus and I doubt they are in US but in Europe where they are the leaner is loved.

Everyone wants to see it happen and it is the natural progression and best technology in theory so develop it properly and its a bag full of win. Its already been done successfully so just follow the bouncing ball. :2thumbs:
 
Not to throw the proverbial wet blanket on this... :shocked:
Sometimes a company files all of the patents so that they can control the technology and hold a product back and on the shelf for an "indeterminate" length of time. :gaah:
 
It isn't consistent with the HD brand, and for that reason alone it would make little sense to have an HD branded "reverse" trike, at least as we know it now. It just doesn't fit a brand that is so much about status when trikes aren't taken as seriously as bikes by so many HD riders.
 
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Not to throw the proverbial wet blanket on this... :shocked:
Sometimes a company files all of the patents so that they can control the technology and hold a product back and on the shelf for an "indeterminate" length of time. :gaah:

To stop anyone doing it to them? Is that the point?

I mean their patents are particular to the Spyder and only particular to their design of leaning trike. So what are the Patents going to particularly protect then when others already have leaning trikes out there (all scooters I think in production) and nobody else can make a Spyder already they have patents that protect the Spyder so the objective of these patents when there are already a number of other patented systems and any number of more that may be made?

I'm not sure if you can apply patent retrospectively so I dont think so so they would if they are taking a protectionist point of view only protecting a future Spyder not yet made and unable to be made by anyone else already? If they are taking a protectionist view then they are only doing it to protect their own leaning system they have designed thats about it isn't it? I dont know the US patent system inside out at all really.

But thats the most I can see coming out of it is they have a design in mind for a model and are protecting it or else its a bit of a waste as it not a very unique system. ;)
 
Yup... :thumbup:

Wont stop anyone for old models because they cant lodge it for previous models as can be seen by the amount of OEM products of every type for every type of machine Case in point, Muzzy, or from here Glo-rider and ISCI. But I'll have a read of the patents and see if they tried that as I think I said above it only protects the idea they have for a a system that would work as a leaning trike. It wont even stop someone doing another system of leaning Trike on their bikes in the future because that patent only applies to a piece and its use, so use a different piece and the patent is stepped around faster than a running back. :coffee:

I'll have a look at their patents one day and see if they are trying to patent all models to one system but it wouldn't be allowed. They become personal property after they get bought. Thats my very loose understanding of it, so do feel free to give me some more info. Cheers :thumbup:
 
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Consumers Choice :roflblack:


My not wanting a Harley Trike of any type with my money is my choice. Do you see Harley Crotch Rockets? Maybe the Night Rod?? hahahaha http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/night-rod-special.html There are things some Companies are good at and makes their brand. Others just copy after seeing success.

They were called Buell until Eric Buell decided to use a Rotax engine in the 1125R instead of the sportster motor. HD shut em down pretty fast after that. The VROD line are not crotch rockets, not even close. They (the motorcycle press) classify it as a power cruiser.
 
Power cruisers? Hmmmm......
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Sorry! I don't see them in that category any more than I'd put a GoldWing in there! :hun:
Sportbike, supersportbike, superdupersportbike, whatever you call them; they're it! :thumbup:
 
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