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Why isnt' the Spyder more popular!

Much of what the writer says about Spyders is true of other high-end motorcycles, too! Price, riders' ages, etc. As to the writer's problems holding on in the curves, and not feeling "one with" the machine . . . he obviously didn't have any clue about how to ride it. (He should have come to SL and read the tips and tricks thread.)

As to "is it a motorcycle or not?" Who cares!
 
I looked up a couple of definitions for a motorcycle:

[h=3]Legal definition of motorcycle - Wikipedia, the free ...[/h]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_definition_of_motorcycle


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The legal definition of a motorcycle for the purposes of registration, taxation and rider licensing in most countries is a powered two-wheel motor vehicle. Most countries distinguish between mopeds up to 49 cc (scooters do not count as a separate category) and the more powerful, larger, vehicles known as motorcycles.



From Merriam Webster.com
: a vehicle with two wheels that is powered by a motor and that can carry one or two people


[h=3]Motorcycle | Define Motorcycle at Dictionary.com[/h]dictionary.reference.com/browse/motorcycle


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a motor vehicle similar to a bicycle but usually larger and heavier, chiefly for one rider but sometimes having two saddles or an attached sidecar for passengers.



[h=3]motorcycle - definition of motorcycle by The Free Dictionary[/h]www.thefreedictionary.com/motorcycle




A two-wheeled motor vehicle resembling a heavy bicycle, sometimes having two saddles and a sidecar with a third wheel.



My opinion......I don't care what you call it. I like my Spyder and wouldn't give it up for any reason, other than being physically unable to ride. By then I should be 6' under.

The article was the author's opinion, and just that "his opinion".

What matters is how you feel about your bike and your life. Cost is high...yes....but it's all relative to what you want and what you're willing to pay.
Life is too damn short........ENJOY IT!!!!
 
I always find it interesting . . . .

. . . . to hear what 'regular' people think of the Spyder, and other motorcycle riders too. It is different and certainly does not fit most peoples assumptions about motorcycles as presented by movies, books or TV programs.

Like PrairieSpyder, I thought the writer was on the clueless side as far as riding the Spyder - though he did say he enjoyed it - I got the impression it was more along the lines of "Hey, that last Transformer's movie was pretty entertaining."

BeRight and Dragonrider are on the same page as I am about the main points the writer made. Yes, expensive - especially when you consider all the costs of maintenance, etc.. Hey, the cost of an F3 is pretty much right at what I paid for my 2005 Chevy SSR. When it comes to equivalency, there are many other things that people can do with that money that will make a real long-term difference in their life. Those of us who can afford a Spyder are truly blessed.

As great as the Spyder is ( see my signature for my Spyders ) the point that BeRight made about their performance is true. But, it is also true that it is a different experience - one that still wows me when I am out on the road - and for me, that is what counts.

I love the ride. It is expensive, but I value the riding experience even more than the money.

Tom

ps - for those of you that don't know, the Chevy SSR is a retro-looking two seater truck, that is also a convertible, that is powered by a big Corvette engine. Picture attached.
 

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My registration says motorcycle
My insurance says motorcycle
I getted inspected under motorcycle

So who am i or anyone else to say different!!:dontknow:
 
If they want to sell more of these they need to find a way to let people test ride them who don't know they want one. BRP's marketing is a very traditional approach that misses much of what has changed in the last five years.

County fairs and other large events might be good places to send the BRP truck.

It would also help to put them in rental at prices that make sense as a weekend day of play. The objective would be to let the rentals break even to promote the experience.

I didn't know it at the time, but it was an ATV excursion in the Caribbean that ended up being my ticket into a Spyder. I think most of the new riders right now come from two wheels, where there is a potentially larger market for Ryders coming from four wheels.

I don't think it would make much real difference for a lot of this if they used 2014 and earlier models for rental and at events. There would just need to be more ability to test ride the various models at the dealerships.

What I don't think has much impact, and I may be wrong, is the very occasional billboard. There either needs to be heavily repeated advertising, or an experience so strong (such as a test ride) that the "impression count" no longer matters.

I would also wonder if they are under-using their best sales force, which is us. I would suggest a two fold approach of very proactively cleaning up some of the issues with some people's Spyders and finding a way to compensate us for the referral. What if they provided us referral cards to hand out to prospective buyers, which when used would give something of some value both to the card holder and to us (50% off a jacket, a $50 merchandise credit, a free oil change, a bit of chrome trim, etc.).

BRP, are you listening? We'd like to be of help to you in selling more Spyders, and to do that I would think you'll want to interact with us more.
You are 100% correct. I wrote BRP a letter explaining what you sai. That was nine or ten months ago. I spent about four days crafting the letter. I don't get anything out of them selling more Spyders--except for a viable product line and support network, that is.

BRP never responded to my letter. So, I don't know if they heard it or not.
 
You are 100% correct. I wrote BRP a letter explaining what you sai. That was nine or ten months ago. I spent about four days crafting the letter. I don't get anything out of them selling more Spyders--except for a viable product line and support network, that is.

BRP never responded to my letter. So, I don't know if they heard it or not.

Just to clarify, I'm not trying to hit up BRP for talking about or recommending Spyders. They don't owe any of us anything for honest referrals. My suggestion was to encourage a more proactive recommendation process with all owners by using a referral program.

I'm not looking for anything out of this for me, just tossing around marketing ideas to build the base.
 
When was the last time you saw a Spyder commercial on TV? Hear on radio? Read in the local paper? It doesn't appear as though BRP is very active in it's marketing.


Saw one today on the weather channel and then again tonight on FX.
 
The article was interesting and accurate but I was more interested in reading the comments.

The majority of the commenters (all male?) seemed to equate the Spyder with a degree of 'wussiness' or lack of manhood... one went way overboard to make that point.

I have to admit that when I rode my Harley (even though it was a leaky AMF model) or fired up my Valkyrie it did good things for my ego that my current RT doesn't. But the Harley is a memory as is the Valk, so you go with what you can.

Today, my wife and I were on the twisty portion of GA Highway 60 coming back from Blue Ridge, down through Suches to Dahlonega. We were taking the turns in leisurely fashion running between 2nd and 3rd gear enjoying the day when my wife's voice came into my helmet.

"Crotch rocket on my rear, careful when he comes up behind you."

He buzzed around her RT and came up behind just as I was diving into an uphill twister. I bumped it down a notch, grabbed some hand grip and wound the twin up into the seven grand range. I surprised the hell out of him. The next stretch was a downhiller with two switchbacks and we played a little tag through that part of the road until it straightened a bit and he could blast by me. But he smiled and waved as he did.

Maybe his opinion of Spyders might change a bit... these ain't performance vehicles but they sure as heck aren't toys either.
 
This article is pretty spot on, the main issue with lack of popularity is price. When people ask me how much they cost they go OMG especially if your talking about an RT which my brother has and i have ridden a lot. Not many people can afford a toy in this price range, i also have a Yamaha FZ6R sport bike which out performs the spyder in every way (except safety :) and that cost me roughly 6300 BRAND NEW just last year. The reason i bought a spyder is not because i can't ride 2 wheelers anymore, i still ride my yamaha all the time, but because of the safety factor. I mean i think they are a lot of fun but certainly no more fun than my bike. However risking myself on the chance i might hit a rock or oil patch or sand patch on my bike is one thing, risking my wife or daughter is another so i sold my other bike i used to take them on rides, a cruiser, for the spyder, however i had to wait a couple years until one got into my price range and it was only in my price range because i got a great deal from the guy at 7000 for an 08 with 17k miles on it. If they bring the prices down to at least be able to get in one for 10k your going to see a lot more on the road and then more dealers and service. I also have an issue with service in the san fernando valley that has a population of 1.5 million and there are ZERO spyder dealers. The closest 2 dealers to me are about 30 miles away which in l.a. is at least 45min to an hour. Im sure the price of service is not a factor because people don't know until they get one but if anyone knew the service costs that would be another big issue in my opinion.

As for motorcycle or not, who cares what its called, i just call mine Spyder :)
 
Why would you want a motorcycle that everybody owns?? I like to be different and not have what everybody else has. I had a Triumph Rocket and not everybody had that bike and now I have the Spyder. I just like it that way.
 
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to hit up BRP for talking about or recommending Spyders. They don't owe any of us anything for honest referrals. My suggestion was to encourage a more proactive recommendation process with all owners by using a referral program.

I'm not looking for anything out of this for me, just tossing around marketing ideas to build the base.
me too.
 
I have never seen a commercial for a Spyder, but then I don't watch a lot of TV. I wanted one the first time I saw one go by me on the interstate 5 years ago. My 2 sons were in my truck and called out "Dad, look at that". I said "I have got to get one of those". 5 years later I finally got one. Now I am the one everyone is pointing at and saying WOWWWWW. I can't stop for gas or go out to dinner without someone questioning me about the Beast. I think a referral program woul dbe great, although let's face it. We are the best advertising BRP has and it doesn't cost them a cent.
 
Why would you want a motorcycle that everybody owns?? I like to be different and not have what everybody else has. I had a Triumph Rocket and not everybody had that bike and now I have the Spyder. I just like it that way.
That's fine from an individual perspective, but how about from the mass-marketing viewpoint?

How many millions of same-old, same-old Harley Davidsons are out there? I should think this is the "proof" that BRP has to recognize, and emulate. But heck, maybe they don't want to, or need to.
 
I was 37 when I bought my Spyder and I own 2nr litre bikes which I use regularly.

I initially looked at a Spyder because we have 2 kids under 10 and we were looking for a fun toy we could enjoy with them. My wife used to have a bike but won't ride one since having kids. So we got her a Can Am Outlander Max (2 seater) quad, which was great fun but not that stable on roundabouts or anywhere where you have to turn the handlebars more than about 20 degrees.

We looked to add a used Spyder to the fleet or another quad so we could go out the four of us. So off we went for a test ride, I came back beaming from ear to ear and decided it would definately be an RT we would be going for. After waxing lyrical about the experience my wife decided to have a go a week or so later, she also loved it. Used RT's were thin on the ground but we wanted the extra rear end to support the kids more than an open st/rs. The V twin was great as both my other bikes (Aprilias) have exactly the same V twin motor.

I purposely stayed away from the triple because I have a real soft spot for them (I love the Sound of the MV Agusta triples and been fighting off getting one for a few years). Curiosity got the better of me however and that was it, enjoyed the experience a lot more and it confirmed to me that was the way to go. This and the fact that used RT's were 75% of the cost of the triple anyway so it just didn't stack up financially with all benefits considered. We sold the quad and plumped for 2 Base RT 1330 Spyders.

Now that I have a choice of what to use for my 50 mile round commute everyday, through a mixture of twisty lanes, dual carriageways, villages, what gets used most?? Well, last year the Spyder covered 1500 miles. 500 of those with my son on the back and alongside my wife. The motorbikes have done 800 and 1000 miles, the higher mileage one accounted for a touring/camping long weekend which made up about 600 of those miles.

It's fair to say that the Spyder got more use than any of the other toys and I really enjoy it. I would be lying if I didn't admit that some of the reactions from the odd 'fellow' biker is disappointing but this is a minority. These people I guess view a Spyder with contempt for not being a 'proper' bike or as being for pussies that can't handle a real bike - small minded idiots! It's their problem, tbh most bikers nod as ususal as they would toward another biker (don't know about the US but bikers share great comraderie in the UK and generally nod to one another). With the Spyder I've actually only had one idiot rub his tummy and nod his head up and down as to mimic laughing. I was hoping Karma would find him a patch of spilt diesel moments later :roflblack:

The thing is, the Spyder isn't a bike nor does it pretend to be. It does however emulate 80% of the biking experience but with so many more positives which in many respects easily outweigh the 20% shortfall. Sometimes you want that pure 100% experience, but increasingly I only want that 20% of the time, because in the real world I head for the door and think what am I taking today, and the majority of the time the answer is the Spyder.

It has so many advantages over the bike, while still letting me enjoy most of the biking experience with better relative safety (more visible to other road users, better stability in response to typical road hazards - diesel spills, poholes, wet drain covers) I don't have to dress up in boots and protective trousers, just throw on a jacket, helmet and sometimes gloves. I can store my helmet in it and carry waterproofs or any other items I might need without having a rucksack. I'm better protected from any road film messing my clothes up and finally, it's just so much more comfortable. Just because I'm a biker doesn't make the Spyder an either/or proposition, it sits very well next to a fleet of bikes. For me its the cruiser in the fleet. I have a nutter Tuono super naked and an adventure Caponord with all the panniers sharing garage space. Each have their merits and I love them all. The Spyder I can enjoy with my family however and that time/those experiences are priceless. We have added to that experience with a full set of Sena 20S intercoms which are quite simply fantastic and have added another whole dimension to the experience.

I'm looking forward to the season getting underway for us again in the next few weeks. I guess what I'm saying above is that the Spyder isn't for over the hill bikers, just bikers (or those wanting to enjoy the biking experience) that want to enjoy the open road with better comfort, practicality and safety. Performance wise the Spyder is pretty good really, I probably ride mine much harder than Can Am intended on my own, I enjoy it, but the VSS does come on regularly, probably that's a good thing as it prevents me from being able to keep pushing until I'm off the road and I've now learnt to drive around it but I would like a dynamic mode for use in the dry.

I would say cost is the biggest factor in them not being more popular although my local dealer has a '14 RS entry level bike for £12,995 which is great really, would be nice to make them more accessible. This 'should' push used prices down a bit making entry to ownership even more achievable although in reality it doesn't seem to quite work that way, quite often, new can actually be much better value for money!, especially when due to the rarity they hold their value pretty well!

cheers
Nito
 
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This article is pretty spot on, the main issue with lack of popularity is price. When people ask me how much they cost they go OMG especially if your talking about an RT which my brother has and i have ridden a lot. Not many people can afford a toy in this price range,

The RTs are actually competitively priced; when you view their competition...
Tri-Glides
GoldWings
Any of the Big Twin Touring bikes from H.D.

They're not meant to compete against the $8000 cruisers...
 
When was the last time you saw a Spyder commercial on TV? Hear on radio? Read in the local paper? It doesn't appear as though BRP is very active in it's marketing.

Funny you would comment. I just say a Spyder commercial on FOX News of all places 2 days ago??? Last year they did a few on ESPN.
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