Why don't dealers have Laser Alignment Equipment?

[jtoro1]

I have had my spyder aligned by the dealer the BRP way and paid for the alignment then went to ROLO that made a big difference now its perfect 18k on rear and front tires the rear will be replaced fronts will go maybe 25k I have rode it over 10k I am a believer on the laser alignment

 

[Magdave]

BRP has their own laser alignment and on the 2013 it requires the tires to be taken off and the shocks pre loaded. It costs ~$300 and does not take into account the rear tire and scrub. Just a bad way to do an alignment IMHO.:thumbup:

 

[bmccaffrey]

I'm a junior member and should probably keep my mouth shut but I've been around this all my life.
1500.00 is a minor investment for what your getting out of it. 125.00 a pop shure doesn't take long to pay for
it self. My opinion if you sell spyders you should have the proper tools to do the job.:cheers:

 

[bscrive]

The Can Am dealer near me is really thinking about it

On Saturday, my wife and I were at the dealership in Embrun Ontario (Loiselle Sports) where I go to for parts and I asked him about getting the DPS on my wife's Spyder reset because we got the lazer alignment done at Spyderquest. He asked us how long it took and the results afterward. When my wife told him that the bike handles like a dream now and it only took about 45 mins. He said that he is really thinking hard about getting the ROLO alignment system because it would save then over two hours doing an alignment. He said that it takes them about three hours to do it the BRP way and customers get really upset with him because they think that it takes way too long and too expensive. We really hope they do get it because they are only 10 mins from our house.

 

[Ramjet]

Couple of comments here;

has as to be a BRP tool under contract? Baloney they sell other makes and brands just gotta tell the. They use them for XYZ ATV.

$1500.00 that is nothing for dealer heck a good set of wrenches cost that.

The labor savings alone would pay if they sell 4 machines per year service $125.00 per alignment is not bad.

So some of the excuses are pretty lame IMHO.

I will bring this this up to my Dealer I bet he will look into it and buy one.

 

[SNOOPY]

If 1500.00 is too much of an expense for an add on service and a worthy one, I'd have to question that dealers viability. (unless they sell 3 bikes a year)

If dealers aren't on forums like this they have no idea other than hearsay that the laser alignment works...hence why they don't do this.

This is the reasoning around our area last I asked.

 

[StanProff]

Was not aware this equipment did not come from BRP. It all makes sense now. Just came back from a 2700 mile ride and both front tires looking from the drivers seat were worn on the right edge. Maybe why the bike pulls to the right since new.

Thanks for the info.

My dealer has the lazer alignment equipment. Didn't seem to be a problem for them to get and start using this method. It is a good system and the spyder runs true after it is aligned with it. Lamonster aligned my 2010 RT (sometime back before my dealer got their equipment) and it did make a good difference in the handling. I highly recommend it.

 

[cptjam]

Money

I am SpyderAnn01's personal tech. From the beginning (2010) when she got her 1st RT, it handled twitchy. We made the dealer try to fix it. He tried. Better, but still out of alignment. The factory puts them together, and ships them. It should be the dealer who preps them for the buyer. They put the parts on, and off it goes. Some folks ride a lot. These are the folks who we see at the rallies and meets. We do, and when I saw the ROLO system, I asked Lamont about it. I had not seen his posts about it. He told me it was a great system, and he got one. I respect his opinion, and looked around. None out west. So, we bought a set of the equipment. Her 2014 was way out of spec. WAY! So we fixed it. We are doing more and more, and so far, none are in spec. In fact, if a tech uses a service manual to align a Spyder, chances are it will still be out of spec when I put my ROLO equipment on it. The defect goes back to the factory, the tech writers, the manual, and the allowable variance in the frame, which is what the techs use to align these, as a reference point. I can see how it takes 3 or 4 hours to do it according to the service manual. With a laser, it is less than an hour. Since we go to the rallies anyway, we can take the tools with us, and get our friends Squared Away.
To address concerns of one of the posts above: We are not going away. I will try to get to every western state in the next few months to fix as many of these that I can. We are in Las Vegas, NV. We welcome folks to stop in - be glad to help. Our website is still under construction, but we are listed as a site Sponsor here. See home page. I think that most dealers like the idea of 3 or 4 hours of billable service. What would motivate them to want to spend thousands of dollars to trim that to an hour? Particularly since there is not the demand to justify the expense. The rider who rides once or twice a month might not even realize it is out of alignment. How many Bikes have we seen for sale with just a few hundred miles on them? Plenty! Couple that with everyone from BRP saying :"they all do that!" And you know, they are right! The service manual even says that "uneven tire wear is normal"!!! So, add all that up, and our business is born! The dealers should have this system issued to them by BRP. Since they don't, folks like us have to step up. We have, and if you want to get Squared Away, give us a call.

 

[lyonsden]

I am pretty sure I got an email from my dealer Reno Powersports of KC and it was an announcement of them getting the alignment system. I haven't done it yet. So some dealers are getting on board and doing right by their customers.

 

[Netminder]

I'm a junior member and should probably keep my mouth shut but I've been around this all my life.
1500.00 is a minor investment for what your getting out of it. 125.00 a pop shure doesn't take long to pay for
it self. My opinion if you sell spyders you should have the proper tools to do the job.:cheers:

Totally agree!:thumbup::thumbup:

 

[jaherbst]

It all depends on who put it together out of the box. IDGAS guys slap them together, punch the clock and let the new owner deal with the out of tolerance alignment. That is what we are dealing with. It has created a whole new industrie. ie Lazer alignment, swaybars and heimlinks. There is no standardization between BRP and Dealers on how to properly assemble and align these beasts! Kind of like assembling your kids toys at Christmas. It is hit and miss. Mostly miss!

 

[MidTNDawg]

Now this is not exactly correct

There is no standardization between BRP and Dealers on how to properly assemble and align these beasts! !

There is a defined procedure and tools. But as has been noted it takes several hours. Your dealer has to commit to quality.

 

[bmccaffrey]

We can talk around this all we want. Bottom line these aren't your 2 wheel rice burners. We have paid top dollar for our spyders.BRP and the dealers owe it to us to give us the best service possible and not put a price tag on it especially at 1500.00. EXCUSES EVERYBODY HAS ONE. GET IT TOGETHER!!!!:lecturef_smilie:

 

[Topshotta]

Where can I buy the laser alignment equipment? Northern Virginia get ready......laser alignment coming to my garage!

 

[SpongeBob]

Laser Alignment Procedure

The service tech at the local dealership said he had to unbolt/remove the shocks to perform the laser alignment.

He said that he removes the frunk to do that.

None of the Lamont's or other photos show the shocks being removed or unbolted.

Is that a BRP procedure ?

 

[NancysToy]

The service tech at the local dealership said he had to unbolt/remove the shocks to perform the laser alignment.

He said that he removes the frunk to do that.

None of the Lamont's or other photos show the shocks being removed or unbolted.

Is that a BRP procedure ?

The 2013 alingment procedure called for removing the shocks and installing fixed length structs in their place during the alignment. The procedure for the earlier frame is different.

 

[SpyRyd]

Where to Purchase LA Equipment

Where can I buy the laser alignment equipment? Northern Virginia get ready......laser alignment coming to my garage!

Fernandel, contact The ROLO/Outlaw folks in Florida. They sell the LA equipment and are a SL sponsor...click on their banner on the home page for contact info.

 

[SpongeBob]

The 2013 alingment procedure called for removing the shocks and installing fixed length structs in their place during the alignment. The procedure for the earlier frame is different.

Interesting ... I wonder if that will carry forward to the 2014 models ?

Does the Rolo system not require removal of the shocks ?

 

[flamingobabe]

pm Ann Meyer...she is in las vegas and has the laser alignment equipment....set up a party with about 6-15 bikes

 

[Route1motorsports]

Laser Alignment

Route 1 Motorsports believes. We have sent several of our customers to have the ROLO alignment done and they loved it. With the positive feed back we received we decided to purchase one for our dealership. Ours is on order and should be here very shortly. We will post on our message board when it arrives. Any of our Florida Spyder Riders that may be interested in this alignment let us know and we will get you scheduled for an appointment! Good Riding SpyderLovers!