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When computers go rogue - psycho automation leaves pilots powerless

IdahoMtnSpyder

IdahoMtnSpyder

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A really fascinating but frightening account of Qantas Flight QF72 back in 2008. The story was just recently published.

A primary flight control computer on an Airbus 330 gets bad data from an air data computer and sends the plane into a steep dive. As the old saying goes, "Garbage in, garbage out." In this case the garbage out were commands that, had the captain not been able to override, would have crashed the plane. The Captain had to fight tooth and nail to overcome the computer as the command structure was computer at the top, pilot second.

A sobering warning about letting computers take control of our lives. We have that on a minuscule scale with the Spyders.

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/...-leaves-pilots-powerless-20170510-gw26ae.html
 
IdahoMtnSpyder said:
A really fascinating but frightening account of Qantas Flight QF72 back in 2008. The story was just recently published.

A primary flight control computer on an Airbus 330 gets bad data from an air data computer and sends the plane into a steep dive. As the old saying goes, "Garbage in, garbage out." In this case the garbage out were commands that, had the captain not been able to override, would have crashed the plane. The Captain had to fight tooth and nail to overcome the computer as the command structure was computer at the top, pilot second.

A sobering warning about letting computers take control of our lives. We have that on a minuscule scale with the Spyders.

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/...-leaves-pilots-powerless-20170510-gw26ae.html
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That's what scares me about driverless cars! :lecturef_smilie:
 
Hi IdahoMtnSpyder,

Re: A primary flight control computer . . .

One of my best friends ever, is dead because an electric trim control went 'wild' as he was turning on final.

He tried to correct it but could not, it was simply too strong for him.

She went in almost straight nose down. At least it was a quick death.

Jerry Baumchen
 
JerryB said:
Hi IdahoMtnSpyder,

Re: A primary flight control computer . . .

One of my best friends ever, is dead because an electric trim control went 'wild' as he was turning on final.

He tried to correct it but could not, it was simply too strong for him.

She went in almost straight nose down. At least it was a quick death.

Jerry Baumchen
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:( How sad.
 
I will never ride in a AirBus.

On it's first public flight at an air show it crashed into the forest beyond the end of the airstrip. The pilots wanted to do a touch and go, the plane wanted to land. So it did.

Was a aircraft mechanic when all this was happening. A questionnaire was sent to all mechs asking if they had worked on an AirBus and what were their feeling on the matter. It boiled down to the designing engineers had not taken into consideration the size of an average person being able to fit into certain areas of the plane for scheduled maintenance.

I'll take a cable control over a computer any day of the week.
 
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