• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

What was wrong with the way it was?

Highwayman2013,

Can you give an easy lesson on how you did the rotation, as the explanation given in another thread (by another member) when waaaaaaay over my head.
 
As a person who also lived by the "whats new" section--I am also feeling your pain.

I have suggested that you use the "Subscribed threads" function to completely eliminate your pain.
But it seems that nobody is listening.

There IS a solution.
Or do you just enjoy complaining.

Not nice to bite the hand that feeds you.
 
Highwayman2013,

Can you give an easy lesson on how you did the rotation, as the explanation given in another thread (by another member) when waaaaaaay over my head.

If I understand the other post …. it is pretty simple and involves editing the picture (without actually making any real changes to it). For example:
Let's say I take a picture with my phone and it is "landscape" with the photo button on the right. I think the picture is fine, but when I transfer it to my computer and look at it with a picture viewer it is sideways -- this is because the picture is tied to a corner (anchored) and it doesn't matter than I tilted my phone. So, the solution is to bring the picture up in a photo capable editor (like paint), make sure it is oriented correctly, and save it with a new name. This will create a new anchor point for the photo and insure that it is oriented properly when uploaded to the forum.

Hope that helps ….. Ann
 
Just waiting...

just waiting..:popcorn:.. till the dust settles then go learn the site again. Not a problem....
 
I had only one problem with the upgrade, and now that it has been explained how to preview my post, it is fine for me. I feel the whole problem has to do with being comfortable with the old, and having to learn the new.
 
I have suggested that you use the "Subscribed threads" function to completely eliminate your pain.
But it seems that nobody is listening.

There IS a solution.
Or do you just enjoy complaining.

Not nice to bite the hand that feeds you.

See post #6 above. You quoted me out of context. You should use all of a quote or none--IMO. :yes:
 
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I had only one problem with the upgrade, and now that it has been explained how to preview my post, it is fine for me. I feel the whole problem has to do with being comfortable with the old, and having to learn the new.

That's true. But the changes made to the forum don't seem to enhance anything for the users. So, having to go to the trouble of learning something seems like trouble with no benefit.
 
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That's true. But the changes made to the forum don't seem to enhance anything for the users. So, having to go to the trouble of learning something seems like trouble with no benefit.

Re "trouble with no benefit" …. well, maybe. Until you consider what could have happened if the SW upgrades were not done …. so the benefit is that we still have Spyderlovers (changed though it may be).

All the best …. Ann
 
I am obviously coming from a position of computer ignorance. The alphabet explanations may as well have been written in a foreign language as far as I am concerned. But I do appreciate that something is happening to continue the forum system when the existing system dies. I have now discovered the "todays posts" catagory and think my inept computer skills can make that work for me. I do appreciate the efforts and now have a better understanding why these changes are happening. My original question on this post was asked in an honest and (hopefully) respectful manner. Although I don't understand all the technical jargen, I now understand the reason for the needed change. My question has been answered. I can deal with it. Thank you. Life goes on.....

(and my new wife is MUCH better than all my old ones) :clap:
 
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That's true. But the changes made to the forum don't seem to enhance anything for the users. So, having to go to the trouble of learning something seems like trouble with no benefit.

Again, you can ignore the details Anthony provided, but the choice was essentially between continuing to have the forum or discontinuing it.

The latter would seem to be trouble with no benefit, so I'm good with the change.
 
I have now discovered the "todays posts" catagory and think my inept computer skills can make that work for me. I do appreciate the efforts and now have a better understanding why these changes are happening.

Oh, I didn't see the Today's Posts link until you mentioned it. Very cool!
 
Again, you can ignore the details Anthony provided, but the choice was essentially between continuing to have the forum or discontinuing it.

The latter would seem to be trouble with no benefit, so I'm good with the change.

I'm not ignoring anything. I applaud Anthony's efforts to maintain the forum.
Nevertheless, I stand by my original statement.
Changes to software that require a learning curve are a waste of effort unless there is also an enhancement to the users experience.
A new feature doesn't have to negate a current feature.
The fault lies in the mindset of the software developers, not the forum administers.
The software developers have lost site of their customers needs.
As an extreme example think, "Windows 8" that killed PC sales for a year.
 
I used to maintain a web forum for a local but higher-end fish tackle and bait shop. If you think Spyder owners can't tolerate change...well you haven't seen anything until fisherman go through a software upgrade. :gaah: It was probably the most successful and popular forum for fishing for my area at the time. It was sad when the owner closed the forum due to too many divisive and off-topic discussions as well as a low return in investment. However, I don't miss the stress of maintaining software where upgrades didn't go well and took several backups to ensure the upgrade didn't forever kill the website.

One thing ThreeWheels to consider. The only thing worse than a software upgrade is the lack of software upgrades. Nothing worse than running a website with buggy, insecure software, or outdated code...and the software developers have abandoned the software. Using your analogy, there are worse things than Windows 8...like Windows ME and Windows Vista!
 
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One thing ThreeWheels to consider. The only thing worse than a software upgrade is the lack of software upgrades. Nothing worse than running a website with buggy, insecure software, or outdated code...and the software developers have abandoned the software. Using your analogy, there are worse things than Windows 8...like Windows ME and Windows Vista!

I'm sorry, I know I'm like a dog on a bone here.
Windows 7 was far better than ME and Vista.
I know there are all kinds of "Under The Hood" improvements that Windows 8 added, but it was at the expense of the user experience.
Just as I am sure there are new under the hood improvements to forum.

I remember working with Xerox in the 80s.
Whenever they built a new copier, they put it in the lobby and grabbed people in the street and offered them $5.00 to try and make copies on the new machine.
If strangers couldn't walk up to the machine and figure out how to make copies, they sent it back to engineering to have the controls redesigned to be simpler.

Maybe others lives are simpler, but with all the myriad of devices and computer programs I use, I just don't enjoy the effort to relearn something I was already familiar with.
Here at work, we fought the change from Office 2003 to Office 2010, because of the steep learning curve, and the loss of productivity while everyone learned the new system.
And at the end of the day, my control charts look exactly the same as before.
 
I'm just happy to be here, learning a lot on a free board and being connected to vendors who sell things pertinent to my Spyder. If there are some glitches and growing pains with software changes... I'll gladly grin and bear it!
 
This fine site

I was on this morning and the site was slow and non- reactive------ but it's just fine now and I'm just fine with it.

Maybe it's because I'm using Chrome---- but the site is fast, with reactive/proactive admin. Change is inevitable------ overcome and adapt or get frustrated and confused. I know that sounds like I'm some young wippersnapper but I'm 71 years young and adapting .'



Lew L
PS:: I do wish there was a way to make this site secure. With the "https" leading the way.
 
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