What is the right way to shift? Please help!

[watchman]

Please help, I need to understand the SE5 electronic shift. Somebody had mentioned that when it down shifts automatically or you force it to down shift that it will blip the throttle by itself to help match RPM of the motor to the transmission. I need to know if when you shift up to the next gear it feels like it cuts the motor for a moment. Is it really that sophisticated or is it just my imagination. If this is what is happening can this be done on hard acceleration? I know if I let off on the throttle and shift and then give it gas it is so much more jerky than to just shift with the throttle open. What is really the right way to shift? Sorry this is so long. Ride safe!

 

[Lamonster]

I'm still getting use to the SE but when I up shift I shift around 6-7K without blipping the throttle.

 

[Spyderjuice]

I have found that on automatic down shifts if shifts down @ about 2500 rpm's from fifth down to second. From second to first it shifts down @ about 1400 rpm's. On up shifts you must be above the downshift rpm's for it to work properly on up-shifts. It shifts smoother the higher the rpm's get. I notice that at 4500 rpm's if shifts pretty smooth and at 5500 or 6000 rpm's it will shift even smoother. I never let off the throttle shifting up. I only let off the throttle when down shifting if I am slowing down. You can also manually downshift above the rpm's mentioned in the first sentence if you want to use the motor to help slow you down or if the motor is lugging.

Hope this isn't confusing.

Juice

 

[skypup]

shifting

I have about 1000 miles on my new spyder. We have found (and were told by our dealer) that higher rpm/s result in smoother shifting. If a person gets jerking while shifting it is most likely from shifting at lower rpm's. The unit only allows shifting if the rpm's are deemed adequate. It seems that if you are very near the low limit that the bogging of the engine you describe will occurr. I like shifting at 3500 to 4500 rpms. I have also found that shifting has improved as the bike breaks in.

 

[NancysToy]

Yes, it is that sophisticated! You are supposed to hold the throttle steady, without letting off when you upshift. The computer will cut it momentarily to allow the shift. Downshifting, it will blib the throttle to match gear speeds. You may not notice either, since they are momentary, but if you noticed somehing, it was normal. If you let off the gas when upshifting, the transition will be rough. Just hold the throttlle and hit the button.

 

[Sarge707]

The Spyder shifts better if you accelerate rather aggressively, When I leave a stop sign, a normal car, will not carch up for quite a while!
I find its always smoother to downshift to 2nd gear Myself and smoother to let the Spyder downshift to 1st at the stop.

 

[fastfraser]

I have a 2009 SE5 with 11,000miles on it and i find if you upshift at 5000 to 6000 RPM it is pretty darn smooth, also when you push the paddle to upshift just brush it with your finger as if you push it all the way in it tends to be not as smooth. Down shift at the same RPMs and use the engine to slow me down .

 

[Tom in NM]

all true . . . . .

. . . . very sophisticated automatic clutch on the SE5.

The only thing I can add is you can also upshift while you are accelerating - giving it more throttle. The effect is just the opposite of upshifting when are turning the throttle down - instead of bogging down, the Spyder will rocket forward like a rocket if you are in the lower gears. Make sure you hang on.

Also, if you are downshifting manually, drop the throttle to almost off - still be giving it some gas, very little - and your downshifts will be "smooth as silk". (thanks to Quadmanics tip on that)

Let the Spyder operate the clutch - keep the throttle steady or increasing. Right around 5,000 RPM is where mine gives a smooth shift.

Tom

 

[hondaman]

As long as it shifts smoooth it will work.I only use my clutch on my sm5 on first gear,2nd up I never use the clutch....

 

[SpyderWolf]

watchman, where in SC are you located? We may be able to get a few of us together for a ryde sometime. :thumbup:

I do the same as the other posters with my SE5, keep the throttle open and shift at higher RPM's for rocket like performance.

 

[aubierules]

Yes, it is that sophisticated! You are supposed to hold the throttle steady, without letting off when you upshift. The computer will cut it momentarily to allow the shift. Downshifting, it will blib the throttle to match gear speeds. You may not notice either, since they are momentary, but if you noticed somehing, it was normal. If you let off the gas when upshifting, the transition will be rough. Just hold the throttlle and hit the button.

i notice the blip on downshifts if im going slow and steady and it barely drops the rpm...it downshifts(like its supposed to do) then the bike kind of surges forward because of higher rpms...scared the crud out of me the first time....this only happens to me when i have the throttle held open and it downshifts....this is all normal and not a problem with the bike...just the nature of the beast

 

[Campverdefela]

The Spyder shifts better if you accelerate rather aggressively, When I leave a stop sign, a normal car, will not carch up for quite a while!
I find its always smoother to downshift to 2nd gear Myself and smoother to let the Spyder downshift to 1st at the stop.

:agree:My wife hates me for this.

 

[bone crusher]

:agree:My wife hates me for this.

PT Prowler...nice...haven't seen one of those for some time...