What do you think of the 'New for 2025 - Spyder Canyon'?

[cptjam]

The bags are Shad bags. Unless the mount is different, all sizes of Shad bags are available. I could see a much bigger top box, and sidecases. I hope these are popular. The BMW GSA is now 650 pounds. Adventure bikes are very popular, and the average age, like all 2 wheel motorcycles, is getting higher. This could be a hit; I just wish it had a bit more power. Like a turbo or supercharger. Most adventure bikes live on pavement. I’ve had them for years, and I do dirt roads and two tracks. I have not ventured into the woods in years. I bet I am typical. So, this Canyon is on the money!

 

[troop]

The bags are Shad bags. Unless the mount is different, all sizes of Shad bags are available. I could see a much bigger top box, and sidecases. I hope these are popular. The BMW GSA is now 650 pounds. Adventure bikes are very popular, and the average age, like all 2 wheel motorcycles, is getting higher. This could be a hit; I just wish it had a bit more power. Like a turbo or supercharger. Most adventure bikes live on pavement. I’ve had them for years, and I do dirt roads and two tracks. I have not ventured into the woods in years. I bet I am typical. So, this Canyon is on the money!

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[nightfalcon]

a bit more detail on the Canyon ...

 

[Yabbadabbadoo]

I had a good look at the Canyon at Spyderquest back in September. It's very ATV-like and is made to ride comfortably in the standing position. BRP explained the lack of frunk is due to needing the high approach angle for ground clearance. The video above does a very good job showing and explaining all that. This would be a good machine for someone who has a lot of dirt roads, logging roads and such like northern Maine or out west, but would also like the on-road capability.

 

[CrazyCooter]

The more we ride and run out if paved roads to explore, the more my wife is realizing the RTL is limiting opportunities. I could see a Red Rock in the future assuming it could be made comfortable enough.

 

[troop]

The Canyon Red Rock would be a decent 1 up tourer.

 

[old Timer]

Er....ah.....can't believe she is doing that presentation bare footed definitely not a good example at all.

On the other hand, would be great out here in the west, more Fire Service, dirt, gravel, rocky and the like roads and trails than you can imagine here.

 

[Peter Aawen]

Has anyone actually ridden one of these things yet?? :dontknow:

I've seen quite a few BRP promo's, and lotsa walk-arounds, but where are the 'First Ride!' reports & vids?? :gaah:

Despite these Canyons LOOKING like they'll be ideally suited to riding in sooo much of Oz in a MASSIVE way, we've been told that it's unlikely we'll see them here unless there's a great call for them, but it seems no-one beyond BRP's promo riders (who never talk about their rides anyway! :banghead: ) has actually RIDDEN one! So how'n the bleedin' 'eck can we know if we should be clamouring for BRP to bring them to Oz or not?? :gaah:

I'm beginning to wonder if it's all a con, like BRP's infamous 'Electric Spyder'... every year or so that's trotted out again as being 'available soon', or 'release date next year' - but they've been doing that since before 2010 and we've yet to see one actually on the road!!

So I'm increasingly wondering... Maybe the Canyon is a similar thing?? :dontknow: Apparently there are a few doing the rounds of the shows; but by all reports, no-one's actually seen one being ridden 'in the flesh' so to speak! :shocked: Could it be that all these walk-arounds we're seeing are being done on mock-ups, and that BRP hasn't actually got beyond producing a few prototypes for the promo vids?? Or are those vids fake too?? :shocked:



I want to see one, preferably in the flesh, and I'd really love to ride one too; but if that can't happen, then I want to see the vids of real rides - not BRP riders, not promo vids, not advertorials -

WHERE ARE THE TEST RIDES & COMPARISONS?? :gaah:

Is the Canyon actually REAL? :dontknow: Or is it just as much of a fake prop trotted out every now and then to excite the masses and keep them looking as the Electric Spyders that have never actually eventuated?? :banghead:

 

[racoon]

WHERE ARE THE TEST RIDES & COMPARISONS?? :gaah:

So I searched the deepest, darkest corners of Youtube and Google and found several fun looking videos of the Canyon...all produced by CAN-AM.

So I tried looking for reviews, and found a couple videos with the reviewers standing next to a Canyon, but again no actual riding.

I also found a picture of four CAN-AM 3-wheelers together, a Ryker, a Canyon, a Spyder F3, and a Spyder RT.
Considering the Canyon has the same 3-cylinder 1330 ACE engine as the F3 and RT, it's about the same size, although it looked a bit taller.

So I dug out some specs for comparison of a Canyon vs a Spyder RT Sea2Sky:

Spyder RT S2S
L x W x H
111.5 x 61.2 x 57.6 in. (2,833 x 1,554 x 1,464 mm)

Seat height 29.7 in (755 mm)
Ground clearance 4.5 in. (115 mm)
Weight 1,021 lb (464 kg)

Canyon
L x W x H
100.3 X 62.2 X 59 in. (2547 X 1581 X 1500 mm)

Seat Height: 33.2 inches (843mm)
Ground Clearance: 6.3 inches (160mm)
Weight: 1,036 lbs (470kg).


The official CAN-AM website says the Canyon is available now, but Google says "Spring 2025".
Considering the dealer I bought my Spyder from is having trouble getting 2024s from CAN-AM, I won't be holding my breath.

 

[racoon]

Captured the picture of the four CAN-AM three wheelers.

 

[nightfalcon]

This is either a really good roll out building customer expectation to nuclear level or the worst press release of a new model since the Yamaha T7!

 

[PURPLEON3]

Has anyone actually ridden one of these things yet?? :dontknow:

I've seen quite a few BRP promo's, and lotsa walk-arounds, but where are the 'First Ride!' reports & vids?? :gaah:

Despite these Canyons LOOKING like they'll be ideally suited to riding in sooo much of Oz in a MASSIVE way, we've been told that it's unlikely we'll see them here unless there's a great call for them, but it seems no-one beyond BRP's promo riders (who never talk about their rides anyway! :banghead: ) has actually RIDDEN one! So how the bleedin' 'eck can we know if we should be clamouring for BRP to bring them to Oz or not?? :gaah:

I'm beginning to wonder if it's all a con, like BRP's infamous 'Electric Spyder'... every year or so that's trotted out again as being 'available soon', or 'release date next year' - but they've been doing that since before 2010 and we've yet to see one actually on the road!!

So I'm increasingly wondering... Maybe the Canyon is a similar thing?? :dontknow: Apparently there are a few doing the rounds of the shows; but by all reports, no-one's actually seen one being ridden 'in the flesh' so to speak! :shocked: Could it be that all these walk-arounds we're seeing are being done on mock-ups, and that BRP hasn't actually got beyond producing a few prototypes for the promo vids?? Or are those vids fake too?? :shocked:



I want to see one, preferably in the flesh, and I'd really love to ride one too; but if that can't happen, then I want to see the vids of real rides - not BRP riders, not promo vids, not advertorials -

WHERE ARE THE TEST RIDES & COMPARISONS?? :gaah:

Is the Canyon actually REAL? :dontknow: Or is it just as much of a fake prop trotted out every now and then to excite the masses and keep them looking as the Electric Spyders that have never actually eventuated?? :banghead:

Since I rode my 2018 F3L through the Yukon last year to interior Alaska, I would LOVE to take the Canyon back on those nasty gravel roads and see how it really rides. But I don't think BRP will give me one to do that test ride and I'm not paying for one and I'm certainly not taking my 2023 F3L back to interior Alaska... I would ride to Hyder, but that's paved the whole way...

 

[GrandpaPete]

When I see this thing do half the TAT or TET, then I'll consider this an offroad bike. Sorry, jmo......

 

[RangerRick]

When I see this thing do half the TAT or TET, then I'll consider this an offroad bike. Sorry, jmo......

Yep, it would be worthless on the steep gravel roads in the Coast Range, here in Oregon, where I live.

 

[SamSpade66]

Yeah, this is typical of Can-Am, very little information available for a product they want you to buy, and the information that's available on their own website is very contradictory. For example on their Canadian website, you'll find the following about the Canyon: "Bumpy, dirt, paved, unpaved and gravel: the Can-Am Canyon lets you ride all types of road with enhanced stability, thanks to his reknown architecture, Vehicle Stability System and 4 drive modes (Sport, All-Road, Rally, Normal) that adapt the engine for specific riding conditions." Then further down on the same Canyon page, you find this: "The 2025 Canyon lineup is versatile, user-friendly and adapts to every road, paved or unpaved. Choose between All-road, On-road, Sport and Comfort driving modes so your ride matches your style at every turn." And in the Specs section you find this: "Riding modes Eco Mode, Custom Mode, Rally Mode, All-Road Mode". So apparently the 4 available riding modes are possibly some combination of these 8 different choices listed: "Sport, All-Road, Rally, Normal, On-Road, Comfort, Eco, and Custom"! They can't even be bothered making a decent website!

 

[SamSpade66]

I've been considering buying a Spyder as I'm getting old, and my back is screwed up! I was about to buy an Africa Twin when I found out I have two compression fractures in my spine, so zero chance of ever picking that up if it goes down! Anyway, I was intrigued when I heard this "Adventure Style Spyder" was coming out. After seeing the price and comparing specs, I'm not that excited. Here in Canada the top-of-the-line RT (Sea to Sky) sells for $40,199 which is $300 less than the top-of-the-line Canyon (Redrock) at $40,499. Going through the specs I've found the following differences between the two, (S2S is Sea to Sky, CRR is Redrock):
Front tires are 15" S2S vs 16" CRR - slightly better for "off road" I suppose
Max load is 494 lbs S2S vs 617 lbs CRR - can carry more stuff
However, storage capacity is 47 gallons S2S vs 31.86 gallons CRR - less enclosed storage available
Audio 6 speaker with radio, USB and Bluetooth S2S vs USB and Bluetooth CRR - both have Apple CarPlay but no Android Auto, with no audio system on the CRR, helmet speakers only.
Seat Height 29.7" S2S vs 33.2" CRR - possibly better visibility, but how will it affect the handling?
Ground Clearance 4.5" S2S vs 6.3" CRR - better for "off road".
Dry Weight 1021 lbs S2S vs 1036 lbs CRR - both massive machines, won't be doing much "off road" on a 1000 lb machine with most of the weight in the front and one rear drive wheel!

As far as features, you get:

Driver and Passenger Backrest S2S vs Passenger Backrest CRR
Electrically adjustable windshield S3S vs Manually adjustable windshield CRR
Driver and Passenger Heated seats S2S vs no heated seats CRR
Floorboards S2S vs Pegs CRR
Extras on the Redrock include a front skid plate and a belt protector, that's about it.
I presume the suspension will be a little more heavy-duty on the Redrock.

All in all, the two are very closely priced.
With the Sea to Sky you get slightly smaller front tires, more enclosed storage capacity, yet less maximum capacity, a great 6 speaker audio system, lower seat height, and less ground clearance. There are also more comfort features such as electric windshield, driver backrest, heated seats, and floorboards.
But with the Redrock you get slightly bigger front tires, less enclosed storage capacity but more maximum capacity, no audio system, higher seat height, and more ground clearance. No so much in the comfort department but you do get a skid plate and a belt protector!

I like the idea of being able to handle gravel roads and such, but I wonder if it might lead to getting into trouble with limited traction. Also, for more money you get no audio system, not sure if that's a good deal?

Have to wait until they are actually at the dealers to check them out. It's a hell of a lot of money for something you can ride for about 7 months a year!

 

[nightfalcon]

I've been considering buying a Spyder as I'm getting old, and my back is screwed up! I was about to buy an Africa Twin when I found out I have two compression fractures in my spine, so zero chance of ever picking that up if it goes down! Anyway, I was intrigued when I heard this "Adventure Style Spyder" was coming out. After seeing the price and comparing specs, I'm not that excited. Here in Canada the top-of-the-line RT (Sea to Sky) sells for $40,199 which is $300 less than the top-of-the-line Canyon (Redrock) at $40,499. Going through the specs I've found the following differences between the two, (S2S is Sea to Sky, CRR is Redrock):
Front tires are 15" S2S vs 16" CRR - slightly better for "off road" I suppose
Max load is 494 lbs S2S vs 617 lbs CRR - can carry more stuff
However, storage capacity is 47 gallons S2S vs 31.86 gallons CRR - less enclosed storage available
Audio 6 speaker with radio, USB and Bluetooth S2S vs USB and Bluetooth CRR - both have Apple CarPlay but no Android Auto, with no audio system on the CRR, helmet speakers only.
Seat Height 29.7" S2S vs 33.2" CRR - possibly better visibility, but how will it affect the handling?
Ground Clearance 4.5" S2S vs 6.3" CRR - better for "off road".
Dry Weight 1021 lbs S2S vs 1036 lbs CRR - both massive machines, won't be doing much "off road" on a 1000 lb machine with most of the weight in the front and one rear drive wheel!

As far as features, you get:

Driver and Passenger Backrest S2S vs Passenger Backrest CRR
Electrically adjustable windshield S3S vs Manually adjustable windshield CRR
Driver and Passenger Heated seats S2S vs no heated seats CRR
Floorboards S2S vs Pegs CRR
Extras on the Redrock include a front skid plate and a belt protector, that's about it.
I presume the suspension will be a little more heavy-duty on the Redrock.

All in all, the two are very closely priced.
With the Sea to Sky you get slightly smaller front tires, more enclosed storage capacity, yet less maximum capacity, a great 6 speaker audio system, lower seat height, and less ground clearance. There are also more comfort features such as electric windshield, driver backrest, heated seats, and floorboards.
But with the Redrock you get slightly bigger front tires, less enclosed storage capacity but more maximum capacity, no audio system, higher seat height, and more ground clearance. No so much in the comfort department but you do get a skid plate and a belt protector!

I like the idea of being able to handle gravel roads and such, but I wonder if it might lead to getting into trouble with limited traction. Also, for more money you get no audio system, not sure if that's a good deal?

Have to wait until they are actually at the dealers to check them out. It's a hell of a lot of money for something you can ride for about 7 months a year!

The added height and bigger wheels are what you want off road. I could care less about a speaker system, I have a Cardo headset which works well enough. The deal breaker for me is the belt drive and no front wheel drive... as you pointed out, with all that weight on the front, the rear wheel drive is likely to get you into trouble rather than out of it.

Maybe they'll upgrade it in years to come, but until then, it's a hard pass from me. My Ryker Rally will do everything the Canyon will do for less than half the price.

 

[ARtraveler]

Since I rode my 2018 F3L through the Yukon last year to interior Alaska, I would LOVE to take the Canyon back on those nasty gravel roads and see how it really rides. But I don't think BRP will give me one to do that test ride and I'm not paying for one and I'm certainly not taking my 2023 F3L back to interior Alaska... I would ride to Hyder, but that's paved the whole way...

And I won't give the Hyder "secret" away this time. :2thumbs:

 

[700wolvy]

With a difference in GC or 1.8", I would probably not make any different choices on routes. Still not considered a high clearance vehicle. Steep dirt roads would still be a no go. Maybe they will have weight plate accessories. However, with the improved approach angle, could make loading in toy hauler or trailer better. I think the aggressive look will sell more than capability. Kinda like the trucks tricked out for overlanding.

 

[ollicat]

She almost always does her reviews bare footed. That is her schtick. She is a great ambassador and when she rides, she is very safe.