Thanks for the thoughts. Much of what you said is what I was already thinking might be the case. I am tempted to just ride with the wife on the RT this summer and shop a F3T next winter after a they have been out for a season. If waiting would only produce 500-1k in savings, I'd bite the bullet and just grab one now. I'm thinking it will be a lot more than that though come next winter. It bums me out that I can't shop online though. In the past you could go to Cycle Trader and see what the high volume dealers are offering them for. Then, you just try to get your local dealer to compete. If they wouldn't budge, I'd just travel or have one shipped. The difference is usually large enough to be worth it which tells me what the mark up is on power sports vehicles. I've routinely gotten sleds, ATV's, PWC's, and bikes for 3-4k off MSRP with no rebate but CanAm nipped that in the bud with the new advertising policy... Now you go to Cycle Trader and it's MSRP across the board on new units. I'm sure my two local dealers are pleased though... :sour: