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The average mh doesn't get driven enough for fuel mileage to be a problem a coach with 100,000 miles is rare so the 8000 for a diesel takes a long time to pay off and in the C's is louder and rare I always figured that if you stay a few days when you travel you make it up with motels there is nothing like the travel experience of a motor home I highly recommend it

I agree. It would take a long time to recoop the cost of a diesel unless you full time and travel frequently.

The new diesel are VERY quiet. There not the rattling beasts they used to be.

Never been in a MH, except to drool, lol. But I do have a large 5th wheel, and love the camping atmosphere.
 
The smaller Thor Compass is a diesel: 3.2 litre inline 5 cylinder. 185 hose, and 350 pound/feet of torque
They usually get right around 15 to 17 mpg under normal touring conditions.
The Outlaw with the Gas V-10 weighs about a ton more: 305 hose, and 45 pound/feet of torque.
I've heard that 8 to 10 mpg is what should be expected... :shocked:
But I'm not buying it for the fuel economy anyway: nobody does! :thumbup:
We are definitely leaning towards the Outlaw: the Missus can't get over the rear garage, elevated deck setup. If we got the Compass: we'd be buying an enclosed trailer for the Spyder. This means one more vehicle to register, maintain, and insure...
 
You Realize Working in the Insurance agency that Buying something like this That you might use a couple times a Year? Really- How often do you leave your hometown for extended trips? Motels and a SECOND Bike for the Mrs. is a Financially better investment- With one bike maybe pulling a Spyder trailer??
You have better financial wisdom than to do this- But then again Trading in your Bike and having Nothing to ride for several months is Not Real Financially sound either- Unless you want to disclose the Great Deal that made you do THAT! Sorry I really think you need to think this through AND through???nojoke

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The smaller Thor Compass is a diesel: 3.2 litre inline 5 cylinder. 185 hose, and 350 pound/feet of torque
They usually get right around 15 to 17 mpg under normal touring conditions.
The Outlaw with the Gas V-10 weighs about a ton more: 305 hose, and 45 pound/feet of torque.
I've heard that 8 to 10 mpg is what should be expected... :shocked:
But I'm not buying it for the fuel economy anyway: nobody does! :thumbup:
We are definitely leaning towards the Outlaw: the Missus can't get over the rear garage, elevated deck setup. If we got the Compass: we'd be buying an enclosed trailer for the Spyder. This means one more vehicle to register, maintain, and insure...

Ya that rear deck definitely adds to the experience. There's pro's and con's to each coach. Only you and the misses can decide which one works best for you.

That "other post".... :banghead::banghead::banghead:... :dontknow:
 
:D If you're not paying someone's bills: you don't have a dog in their fight... :thumbup:


...So you don't get any input in their decisions... nojoke
 
As bad as spyders smell like gas after a ride I wouldn't want to put them inside with me and what if you want to go to the lake with a boat or jet skis or how about snowmobiles I would rather have the room in the coach and use trailers which are pretty cheep and can be specialized for the type of use
Every bike is different... mine has always smelled MUCH better than I do, after a day on the road. nojoke
And the garage does have vents to keep any smells to a minimum. The Missus has threatened to put me back there, and just leave the bike at home! :yikes:
 
Oh! Just for a fun comparison:
Here's the Class C Outlaw parked in front of it's bigger brother: the Class A Outlaw...

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We could NEVER drive that big bus!


Have you tried? Perhaps a test drive is in order. You would probably be surprised.

Whether a Class A or a Class C, the thing that gets most part time RVs is the overhang - distance from rear axle to the end of the coach. Easy to hit a gas pump at a gas station.

Joe T.
 
:shocked: One more scary thought... :shocked:

2018 Thor Outlaw 29H Camper's Barn 039.jpg2018 Thor Outlaw 29H Camper's Barn 043.jpg

If you see THIS guy coming at you: look out! :yikes:
He's either:

Completely lost
Trying to figure out what that flashing light on the dash is
Or he's wondering what he just ran over!

I'm buying the moving "RV" as soon as possible; and memorizing every scene!
 
Hi Bob,

Re: We've just got to see if the deal can be struck...

M.S.R.P: $113,163
MHSRV Sale Price: $72,911

http://www.mhsrv.com/2015-thor-moto...acks-2-a-c-3-tv-patio-new-class-c-tx-i1123523


And read this first ( :yikes: ): https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Art-De...501895774&sr=8-1&keywords=the+art+of+the+deal

Jerry Baumchen

Thanks, Jerry!
I've been digging around in their website for a couple of Months. :clap:
But I'd be a bit leery about buying from a dealership that's about 1800 miles from my home...
That's a 2015 rig, and we're looking at a 2018. But their pricing IS pretty good! :thumbup:
I also have some concerns about being such a tiny little blip on their radar. They are a H U G E dealership, and I figure that they'd forget my name right after I was handed the keys... :banghead:
I'd rather deal with folks that can become friends... :D
 
The smaller Thor Compass is a diesel: 3.2 litre inline 5 cylinder. 185 hose, and 350 pound/feet of torque
They usually get right around 15 to 17 mpg under normal touring conditions.
The Outlaw with the Gas V-10 weighs about a ton more: 305 hose, and 45 pound/feet of torque.
I've heard that 8 to 10 mpg is what should be expected... :shocked:
But I'm not buying it for the fuel economy anyway: nobody does! :thumbup:
We are definitely leaning towards the Outlaw: the Missus can't get over the rear garage, elevated deck setup. If we got the Compass: we'd be buying an enclosed trailer for the Spyder. This means one more vehicle to register, maintain, and insure...

Does she understand that she'll have to walk around the Spyder to get to that deck? Or does she think you'll move it outside? :dontknow::lecturef_smilie::dontknow::lecturef_smilie:
 
I know I am a newbie on this board and this is my first post here but I wanted to chime in on Thor products.
I know your choices of Toy Haulers are limited.
Thor manufacturing owns over 80% of the different brand Rv's and travel trailers out there now since the economy went to crap back in 08.
If you really look at their quality and dig past the pretty facia you will see they are made very cheap!
If you have owned a trailer or RV in the past you will see the difference if this is your first you will not.
Trust me I learned the hard way over 10 years ago.
Remember these are rolling earthquakes and things break.
The Ford Chassis they are using are almost over weight with just the coach itself once you add any gear and the usual camping things you will be surprised that you are already over the limit, now add a garage and a 1000lb spider ( depending on the model) you very well could be over loaded.
Sure they salesman will say you have plenty of cargo weight to sell you a unit.
Read the weights. see for yourself how much you really have left that you can carry on a unit before you commit.
Even though you are looking at a toy hauler look at a higher quality unit such as a Newmar, or Alegro you will see the difference.
It's the little things like door hinges, how the cabinets are made, look at the bottom of the drawer cabinets and see how cheap the bottoms are made. usually paper thin luan wood. look how the cabinets are built are they stapled together or do they use dovetail joints.
Are the fixtures such as sinks, faucets made of Plastic or real china and metal fixtures.
Oh it might have a stainless steel kitchen sink but it will be so think it will get dented.
Look how the shower is made, does it have a door or just a curtain? door is better but even then feel the door is it flimsy when you open it?
Is there sound deadner in the engine compartment? Gas motors are loud! Hard to have a conversation sometimes when you have the pedal floored when trying to go up a hill. Don't get me wrong the sound is not as loud as they used to be but they are still loud.
Is the plumbing in the basement protected and enclosed from the colder weather, is the plumbing just hanging in the storage area where if you store something in it will it break your pipes? It happens a lot!!!
I can go on and on about this.
Really compare the quality the Thor will not last!!
Also note if your unit is to big and you decide to travel some National parks will not accept a unit over 35 sometimes.
Read on different forms about Thor you will see what I am talking about.
It sounds like you have your heart set on this but please compare you will see the difference don't be fooled by the pretty,, remember a pig is still a pig even with makeup an lipstick.
I wish you the best whatever you buy
 
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I know I am a newbie on this board and this is my first post here but I wanted to chime in on Thor products.
I know your choices of Toy Haulers are limited.
Thor manufacturing owns over 80% of the different brand Rv's and travel trailers out there now since the economy went to crap back in 08.
If you really look at their quality and dig past the pretty facia you will see they are made very cheap!
If you have owned a trailer or RV in the past you will see the difference if this is your first you will not.
Trust me I learned the hard way over 10 years ago.
Remember these are rolling earthquakes and things break.
The Ford Chassis they are using are almost over weight with just the coach itself once you add any gear and the usual camping things you will be surprised that you are already over the limit, now add a garage and a 1000lb spider ( depending on the model) you very well could be over loaded.
Sure they salesman will say you have plenty of cargo weight to sell you a unit.
Read the weights. see for yourself how much you really have left that you can carry on a unit before you commit.
Even though you are looking at a toy hauler look at a higher quality unit such as a Newmar, or Alegro you will see the difference.
It's the little things like door hinges, how the cabinets are made, look at the bottom of the drawer cabinets and see how cheap the bottoms are made. usually paper thin luan wood. look how the cabinets are built are they stapled together or do they use dovetail joints.
Are the fixtures such as sinks, faucets made of Plastic or real china and metal fixtures.
Oh it might have a stainless steel kitchen sink but it will be so think it will get dented.
Look how the shower is made, does it have a door or just a curtain? door is better but even then feel the door is it flimsy when you open it?
Is there sound deadner in the engine compartment? Gas motors are loud! Hard to have a conversation sometimes when you have the pedal floored when trying to go up a hill. Don't get me wrong the sound is not as loud as they used to be but they are still loud.
Is the plumbing in the basement protected and enclosed from the colder weather, is the plumbing just hanging in the storage area where if you store something in it will it break your pipes? It happens a lot!!!
I can go on and on about this.
Really compare the quality the Thor will not last!!
Also note if your unit is to big and you decide to travel some National parks will not accept a unit over 35 sometimes.
Read on different forms about Thor you will see what I am talking about.
It sounds like you have your heart set on this but please compare you will see the difference don't be fooled by the pretty,, remember a pig is still a pig even with makeup an lipstick.
I wish you the best whatever you buy
Well said I have been trying to say the same thing also I would never buy new I bought my lazy daze 2 yrs old stored under cover with 10,000 miles for 60% of new rv's are the highest depreciation things you can buy and they sell a ton of them to people with big ideas and end up using them 3 times, and a year goes buy then they go wtf am I making these payments for like boomer man said 90% of these things are cosmetic fluff over balasa wood with staples only buy minimum wage employees that hav worked since last week and will quit next month. Study up
 
Does she understand that she'll have to walk around the Spyder to get to that deck? Or does she think you'll move it outside? :dontknow::lecturef_smilie::dontknow::lecturef_smilie:



Good luck in getting by it. Bob indicated there is only 1.5" clearance on each side. She'll have to climb over it.
 
Just say no

These depreciate so fast you will be flabbergasted!!! Do the math;
how many times will you use it in a year? Say 12; one trip of distance, and a couple of weekends. If the monthly payment is $1000, it cost 12k a year; divide by uses. 1000 dollars a day! Now factor in depreciation, another chunk of change, and you can save a ton by riding and staying in nice hotels or resorts! Or, rent one for a trip. You will be miles ahead in the long run!!!
 
These depreciate so fast you will be flabbergasted!!! Do the math;
how many times will you use it in a year? Say 12; one trip of distance, and a couple of weekends. If the monthly payment is $1000, it cost 12k a year; divide by uses. 1000 dollars a day! Now factor in depreciation, another chunk of change, and you can save a ton by riding and staying in nice hotels or resorts! Or, rent one for a trip. You will be miles ahead in the long run!!!

If where you travel is not out in the boonies with no facilities then you are correct. Much better to get a room and eat a steak dinner in a good restaurant. But if you are staying at some remote sand dune, lake or national monument then having most of the comforts of home is preferable to listening to an unhappy wife.

Personally, after doing the full sized motorhome thing for a number of years, should I ever catch that bug again it would be a heavy duty truck and a fifth wheel. They are a bit more spartan but have much more room inside for toys and people. And having a separate tow vehicle allows you to leave the trailer located in your selected spot while you take off in the truck if need be. Plus, unless you get crazy with the truck purchase the combined cost of a truck and fifth wheel is less than a single motorhome.
 
Class Coach

We've finally got our eyes on a Motorhome that'll carry the Spyder along with us!
Thor's Outlaw 29 H Toy-Hauler

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It's built on the Ford E-45 chassis, and has the V-10 under the hood.

We've just got to see if the deal can be struck... :D[/Q

If your tires are squatting with your Spyder loaded beware. Happened to me on my class C blew out rears right and left. Went to 13 ply tires,no squatting,no problems:doorag:
 
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