Went to Mobile 1

[Roadster Renovations]

Wow, I cannot believe the difference! Went from BRP blended to Mobile 1 4T full synthetic and I immediately noticed a difference. The engine runs quieter and you can barely feel it shift. The old oil has 5k on it and will be sent in for analysis. Let's see if the shearing had ceased like the claims....I'll report back!

 

[JayBros]

I just sent my first sample of Mobil 1 4T for analysis with 2,000 miles on it. I intend to send samples at 2K intervals at least through 6K to observe the stabilization of viscosity shear. I agree too that the shifting is noticeably smoother than with the BRP synthetic blend. It also will be interesting to see if the smooth shifting continues as the oil accumulates mileage.

 

[Chupaca]

Waiting....

Be interesting to see both your findings. Should keep a record, a graph, a chart for all those oil related questions put it up next to the one that should be made for tires. Ok tires I don't care about but the oil I do....:thumbup:

 

[gypsy_100]

Good Stuff

I used Mobil 1 a lot in my 100K Gold Wing and my V-Strom. Always liked it. Would have used it in my 2011 RT if it had a JASO MA-2 rating instead of MA-1. Since the v-twins occasionally had clutch slipping problems. Maybe for the 1330's it will be just fine. I had been using Amsoil JASO MA-2 in the 2011 and now use it in the '14 1330. Let us know if you detect any trace of clutch slippage and the analysis results. Will be interesting. Thanks.

 

[PW2013STL]

I had the BRP blended tested at 6,000 miles and it sheared down to 20w. I switched to Mobil 1 and had the Mobil 1 10-40 full syn tested at 6,000 miles and it had sheared down to 33w. I then switched to BRP full syn and at 5,700 it also sheared down to 20w. I stayed with BRP full syn for my trip to Alaska and will be sending that in for testing. It has 8,500 miles on it. Once I have that test I will post the full report.

Based on the tests so far I will be changing to Mobil 1 at my next change and sticking with it.

 

[Bob Denman]

Since my bike is just about due for some fresh "dinosaur squeezins'"; I'm waiting patiently to hear what comes back from the labs! :thumbup:
:bbq::bbq::bbq:

 

[gypsy_100]

I had the BRP blended tested at 6,000 miles and it sheared down to 20w. I switched to Mobil 1 and had the Mobil 1 10-40 full syn tested at 6,000 miles and it had sheared down to 33w. I then switched to BRP full syn and at 5,700 it also sheared down to 20w. I stayed with BRP full syn for my trip to Alaska and will be sending that in for testing. It has 8,500 miles on it. Once I have that test I will post the full report.

Based on the tests so far I will be changing to Mobil 1 at my next change and sticking with it.

Just as another point of reference, I had 8100 miles on my 2011 RT during an Alaska trip. Amsoil 10-40 and it came back from the lab in the high 30's for viscosity -- 12.06 cSt@100C. TBN was good, too, at 6.1.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

I had the BRP blended tested at 6,000 miles and it sheared down to 20w. I switched to Mobil 1 and had the Mobil 1 10-40 full syn tested at 6,000 miles and it had sheared down to 33w. I then switched to BRP full syn and at 5,700 it also sheared down to 20w. I stayed with BRP full syn for my trip to Alaska and will be sending that in for testing. It has 8,500 miles on it. Once I have that test I will post the full report.

Based on the tests so far I will be changing to Mobil 1 at my next change and sticking with it.

Interesting.....From this it appears the BRP --- Full Syn is NO BETTER than their Blended :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:........I"ve been using Rotella T-6 and about to have it tested ( 5000 miles ).....I'll post results when they come back.....Mike :thumbup:

 

[ulflyer]

Really glad to see the reporting by those of you who test your oil. I've been testing a lot since I got my first RT in '11. Generally, both motors shear about the same. I've got Mobil1 in mine now with 4K on it and will test it at 6K. By then we all should have enough concrete information to see whether the shearing tapers off significantly after the first couple thousand miles. I'm a doubting thomas, but sincerely hope I'm wrong.

 

[ricford]

I watched a video on Youtube University by the factory Amsoil lecturer. So learned a lot about shear. And how synthetic works. Please tell me where to send the oil for testing as I'm about to switch to Amsoil this week and would like to have the original factory installed oil tested with 3,300 miles on it. It's my first change but from my last 4 big bikes (BMW K1200LT) I learned the value of Amsoil. For my Silverado however, I've used Mobil 1 since the first change and that was 125K miles ago. and would never change but for the bikes, Amsoil is it for me. Still would like to test my bike's oil.

 

[JayBros]

Please tell me where to send the oil for testing as I'm about to switch to Amsoil this week and would like to have the original factory installed oil tested with 3,300 miles on it... Still would like to test my bike's oil.

Contact a Napa auto parts store and ask for part FIL-4077, cost $13.99, oil analysis kit. Follow the instructions. In my local area not all Napa stores carry them but you can order them online and pick up at your local store. The only additional cost is postage to the lab. Mine goes to Atlanta for less than $3.00.

 

[MikeT]

Any Warranty Issues???????????

Being a NewB(<1000 miles), I'm always looking to learn from the more experienced SLs. My take aways from all this "oil talk" are:
1. The BRP oil is just OK, IF you change every 3-4K
2. There are better alternatives available; but only if you do you own oil changes. The leading brands are:
a. Mobil 1 T4
b. Rotella T6
c. Amsoil
Here's my questions:
1. During the Factory Warranty period, can BRP leave you high and dry if you don't use their oil?
2. Does the BEST warranty care what oil you use?
Thanks for your guidance

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WARRANTY

Being a NewB(<1000 miles), I'm always looking to learn from the more experienced SLs. My take aways from all this "oil talk" are:
1. The BRP oil is just OK, IF you change every 3-4K
2. There are better alternatives available; but only if you do you own oil changes. The leading brands are:
a. Mobil 1 T4
b. Rotella T6
c. Amsoil
Here's my questions:
1. During the Factory Warranty period, can BRP leave you high and dry if you don't use their oil?
2. Does the BEST warranty care what oil you use?
Thanks for your guidance

NO & NO........The Moss Magnusson Act protects you from any manufacturer from forcing you to use their products or services to maintain the warranty. But you must document what you do and what you use.....and it must be equal to or exceed their requirements. This may at first sound difficult but it's not......annnnnnnnnnd for them to deny you coverage they have to PROVE what you did was defective and caused the failure...................TO ANYONE WHO KNOWS IT BETTER ...PLEASE MAKE CORRECTIONS .......Mike :thumbup:.............PS, to date I haven't brought my 2014 RT into the dealer yet, but I completed all the warranty requirements

 

[JayBros]

As long as you use an oil meeting the API service classification listed in your Operator's guide you meet the requirement. Remember, as Steve from BRPcare explained the oil viscosity shears down 20-30% within 1,000 - 1,500 miles and then stabilizes. What I believe most of us are looking for, at least I am, is the approximate stabilization mileage point and the viscosity at that point.

 

[MarkLawson]

I the early days of this forum, the motorcycle blend of Mobil-1 was reported to have caused clutch slippage, resulting in costly repairs. I remember Scotty (Nancy'sToy) recommending it not be used. I don't recall which Mobil-1 was used, V-Twin or the one mention by the OP of this thread. I have used the 4T on my GL1800A for years without a problem.

 

[Mad Mac]

Mobil 1 life member

I've used Mobil 1 car oils in just about every vehicle I was licensed to drive or ride. Back in the 70's I owned a Honda 750k that had a "dry sump" and my dad and I noticed with regular auto oils that when you pulled the dip stick, the oil would be very foamy but when we changed to Mobil 1 the oil would be totaly in fluid form. So ever since then I've stuck with it. Used it in "hotted-up" VW sand rails and 4 stroke race bikes and I've never blown one of them up(hope I just d/n jinx myself). Have noticed that my RT did not burn a drop on our 5000 mi. trip and I have to agree it does seem to shift better. :yes:

 

[SPYD3R]

WHERE

WHERE DO YOU GUYS GO TO HAVE YOUR OIL 'TESTED'.....?
HOW MUCH DO YOU GIVE THEM FOR THIS TEST...?
HOW MUCH DOES THIS TEST COST...?

PLZ keep us informed... i for 1 am VERY INTERESTED....

NOTE: does any1 out there really believe that the new 1330's can go over 9000 miles between oil changes without a risk....?
Dan P
Easley, SC
SPYD3R F3-S

 

[JayBros]

Dan, see post #11.

The analysis is what we hope will give us some confidence in what BRP is telling us about the 9,300 mile change interval.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

SOME ANSWERS

WHERE DO YOU GUYS GO TO HAVE YOUR OIL 'TESTED'.....?.....some USE ..napa
HOW MUCH DO YOU GIVE THEM FOR THIS TEST...?.......$ 13.99 (?) + shipping
HOW MUCH DOES THIS TEST COST...?same as above

PLZ keep us informed... i for 1 am VERY INTERESTED....

NOTE: does any1 out there really believe that the new 1330's can go over 9000 miles between oil changes without a risk....?....Yes there are a few ...the ones who believe in the " tooth fairy " :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:.....I don't in either case ....Mike
Dan P
Easley, SC
SPYD3R F3-S

see above in red.....Mike

 

[SPYD3R]

OIL

see above in red.....Mike

MIKE;
LET ME RE-STATE MY QUESTION BETTER....
HOW MUCH 'OIL' DO YOU GUYS GIVE THEM FOR THIS TEST?
DAN