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Well crap!!!!!

I haven't owned a GM since 1980 when I told them there was something wrong with the transmission on my brand new Camaro. Took it in four times while under warranty. They kept saying "Problem not found". It finally blew three weeks after the one year warranty was up and I had to pay $$$$ to have it fixed. They lost a customer for life.

I sincerely hope you have better luck.
Those were dark days for GM (and many others). The quality control was horrid, and some of the shops had mechanics so poor they made the worst Spyder dealer horror stories seem like Nirvana. One Chevy van I looked at had the rear fenderwells welded in so badly that you could drop a ping-pong ball outside from the interior. My '79 GMC van ended up at the dealer for a month. When they couldn't repair a simple issue, I threatened to park it in front of the dealership, paint lemon on it, and slash the tires after I called the newspaper. They fixed the original issue, but cretaed a miss that they still couldn't figure out it a week later, I told them to push it outside and if I couldn't get it running by the time they closed I'd sign the tiltle over to them. I had it running in an hour, replace the spark plug they broke putting the motor cover back on. When the brakes failed a month later, and the system had to be flushed, they asked me what it would take to never darken their door again. I settled for a 25% cash rebate and a 44 gallon gas tank. A couple of months after that it stopped ****ing. When I pulled the transmission pan, the shift quadrant was in the bottom of the pan, the factory never tightened the nut. With a little TLC that van went 186,000 miles for me...but it sure was a struggle.
 
In today's World economy; there are production plants everywhere for everything... Companies outsource looking for what they need to build their product too... For example; you've always had metric forks on Sportsters. :shocked:
I try to buy from companies that have their corporate headquarters here in the U.S.A. I don't want the profits from my purchases going overseas...:gaah:
Foreign bikes: Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Harley-Davidson! :shocked: (Yup; an Aermachi-Davidson...)
Foreign cars: Ford (A German Fiesta...) and 2 MINIs...
The American manufacturers are experiencing a real upsurge in the quality of their vehicles: your situation notwithstanding...
But they've STILL got to get it right when dealing with upset customers who have legitimate problems...
Remember how Chrysler botched the whole minivan rear cargo door issue.
Now think about how Toyota handled Tacomas rusting in half prematurely!

Off the soapbox now...
 
In today's World economy; there are production plants everywhere for everything... Companies outsource looking for what they need to build their product too... For example; you've always had metric forks on Sportsters. :shocked:
I try to buy from companies that have their corporate headquarters here in the U.S.A. I don't want the profits from my purchases going overseas...:gaah:
Foreign bikes: Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Harley-Davidson! :shocked: (Yup; an Aermachi-Davidson...)
Foreign cars: Ford (A German Fiesta...) and 2 MINIs...
The American manufacturers are experiencing a real upsurge in the quality of their vehicles: your situation notwithstanding...
But they've STILL got to get it right when dealing with upset customers who have legitimate problems...
Remember how Chrysler botched the whole minivan rear cargo door issue.
Now think about how Toyota handled Tacomas rusting in half prematurely!

Off the soapbox now...

Well said :thumbup:
 
In today's World economy; there are production plants everywhere for everything... Companies outsource looking for what they need to build their product too... For example; you've always had metric forks on Sportsters. :shocked:
I try to buy from companies that have their corporate headquarters here in the U.S.A. I don't want the profits from my purchases going overseas...:gaah:
Foreign bikes: Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Harley-Davidson! :shocked: (Yup; an Aermachi-Davidson...)
Foreign cars: Ford (A German Fiesta...) and 2 MINIs...

And they all insure the same, right Bob? It's rhetorical; you don't need to answer.
 
I will never drive American. :doorag: I perfer my stuff to last. :roflblack:

All these flag wavin American all the way people better not shop at Walmart or have any electronics of any sort. That would be highly Hypocritical. :joke: FYI....... Your computer your typing on right now, is made overseas !!!! :roflblack:

Now if you want to talk quality, then drive this. I just had a major repair on my Toyota, I had to replace my windshield wipers because they were wore out. :roflblack:

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:shocked: How come it ain't yellow?? :roflblack:
Actually I have had more trouble with the American cars that the foreign ones... The worst was an oil pump in a 1975 Olds 88 (440 BB) It would have required a major teardown to even get the the stinking thing... :gaah:
That's when I got the Fiesta... A fun little car that wore it's brakes out every 12000 miles like clockwork :shocked:
But all 66 horsepower showed up to the party every time! :ohyea:
Good and bad everywhere today; it's actually more in the hands of the dealer to keep you buying what they're selling...:thumbup:
Can Am.... Canada... North America Baby! :2thumbs:
 
I will never drive American. :doorag: I perfer my stuff to last. :roflblack:

All these flag wavin American all the way people better not shop at Walmart or have any electronics of any sort. That would be highly Hypocritical. :joke: FYI....... Your computer your typing on right now, is made overseas !!!! :roflblack:

Now if you want to talk quality, then drive this. I just had a major repair on my Toyota, I had to replace my windshield wipers because they were wore out. :roflblack:

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Hook up to a 12K trailer, and your bumper would be draggin the ground...:roflblack:. As far as electronics, we have no choice...If there were ANY made in the US, I'd buy em...
 
...As far as electronics, we have no choice...If there were ANY made in the US, I'd buy em...

There -are- electronics made in the US. IBM has a microelectronics foundry in Essex Jct., VT and in East Fishkill, NY where some of the best electronics in the world are designed and made. The products go into everything from game consoles, cell phones, automotive electronics, servers, ASICS, communications equipment, satellites, US military equipment, and supercomputers. Chances are you already own something with US IBM made electronics inside. Your smart phone, your router, your car, your microwave oven, your GPS, your satellite or cable TV receiver, etc. And unlike many other US electronics companies the chips were both designed -and- made in the USA, not subcontracted overseas.

The products are state of the art and second to none and compete directly with China which is not easy especially since IBM products have better design and quality control, and are made by US workers working for a fair wage with good benefits. It just goes to show that the US can compete directly with Asia and US jobs do not have to be lost to low wage overseas labor.
 
The first new car that I bought was a 1976 Datsun B 210 and that car was the reason I buy only american cars since. Three heads and finally the seat falling through the floor, I parked it. I did have an earlier new truck, 1973 C25 that finally gave up in 1992 when I bought a 92 K3500 and that has just been replaced with a 2012 3500 Denali. So you can see why they say Chevy is the longest lasting truck. I hope to get 20 years on my new GMC.
 
3 million miles in a VOLVO??? What on earth did he do that was so horrible to be punished like that?? :shocked: :roflblack:
Remember: it wasn't an S60...
 
There may be some products that are exclusively American but in this world of global economics and cross-border trade agreements, etc. I think there's very few!

I buy what I think is the best value for my hard earned dollar....if I needed a heavy duty hard working truck like Rob, it would be a GMC or Ford (probly Ford cause of the bailout)...If I want a long lasting comfortable passenger truck capable of hauling the occasional load of gravel or cinder blocks, it would be a truck like Randy's.

The 'American' vehicle is probly full of imported parts, money spent on the 'Imported' vehicle probly finds it's way to an American holding company, or American investors anyway.

Just sayin'.......
 
Danny you think Rob works hard ??? :roflblack: He just got back from Vacation. :bbq:



Seriously, Rob is right. I could never pull a 12k lb trailer with my truck. I would just hate to speculate his fuel bill. :yikes: I only get about 9-10 mpg when I pull my Spyder camper, even Rnets new truck he has gets better mileage than mine. :mad:
 
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Randy,
The new "girl" looks ferocious! :yikes:
You seem to have a bit of a soft spot in your heart for older, richer women... :thumbup:
 
Danny you think Rob works hard ??? :roflblack: He just got back from Vacation. :bbq:



Seriously, Rob is right. I could never pull a 12k lb trailer with my truck. I would just hate to speculate his fuel bill. :yikes: I only get about 9-10 mpg when I pull my Spyder camper, even Rnets new truck he has gets better mileage than mine. :mad:

Your right...you DONT want to know my fuel bill. Truck gets 9-10 towing my mowers, around town....gets REAL thirsty when i tow a mini or a skid steer..

As far as vaca?? With out my truck, seems like i'm still on vaca. Just not as nice as the Keys...
 
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