Wear a Mask!

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I think it inevitable that we'll all have some exposure to it before this is all over, that's been the way with virulent virus infections since they started waaay back in the dawn of time!! :yikes: It's just a matter of containing the spread and reducing the total number of those affected/afflicted at any one time to a level low enough that our treatment & care centres can manage the treatment & case load without causing the collapse of the entire system. And don't for one moment think that if we survive this 'initial exposure' phase without causing said collapse that there won't be a rebound/phase 2 (& maybe phase 3?) as all those who missed out the first time round get infected as soon as we all think the worst is past & relax the controls!! It's almost certainly going to be a long haul to beat this one - that is, IF we ever do 'beat' it, rather than simply learn to accommodate it as we've done with so many other diseases.... the Common Cold, Influenza, Smallpox, and many more!! :shocked:

My first thought when I saw a discussion for the first time about 'flattening the curve' is it looks like the downside of doing that is the epidemic continues on longer, but at the end the casualty rate will be much the same. So which is better, a quick devastating crashing blow to humanity, or a slow painful devastation?

Maybe all the goods movement is a much greater hazard than has been thought. I agree that is the one common connector to all communities. Officials need to look closer and harder at that.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

" paper towels " .... on a thread I started the other day .... I explained how a P.T. can be folded and two rubber bands stapled to each end makes a cheap but effective mask ..... Mike hyea:

And if you think about how they're made you should be able to easily comprehend how and why they are sterile, even though that's not said. My retired veterinarian brother used ordinary paper towels in his vet practice because they are sterile and a whole lot less expensive than "sterile" towels. The pulp is mixed hot, I think it is, and then rolled and dried all by machine and wrapped by machine. There's really no place for bad actors to get into it.

 

[billythekidd]

I'm curious why you think that?

Because for previous pandemics in my life time anyway, the world did not do this. That is the only reason I wonder that. The CDC estimates that H1N1 killed 150k to almost 600k world wide and we did not have any thing like this and that was just 10 years ago...Some studies estimated that 11 to 21 percent of the global population at the time – or around 700 million to 1.4 billion people (out of a total of 6.8 billion) – contracted the illness. This was more than the number of people infected by the Spanish flu pandemic, but only resulted in about 150,000 to 575,000 fatalities for the 2009 pandemic (I believe the Spanish Flu killed 50million). The Hong Kong flu in 1968 killed over a million... Believe me, I know these viruses are not the same, but my thinking was about people dying since straight up they have said 80% will only experience nothing to mild symptoms.. Anyway...

 

[billythekidd]

Maybe all the goods movement is a much greater hazard than has been thought. I agree that is the one common connector to all communities. Officials need to look closer and harder at that.

My response is not directed at you but your point is right on to what I have been saying. We move the virus.. be it goods shipment or "wind therapy" the possibility of spreading the virus grows anytime there is movement. It is not only about personal infection, it is about containment. As was mentioned I also believe we will all be touched by this at some point or another, but if we can slow the spread it may give the scientists time to develop a vaccine for this. Time will tell, but again as much as I would love to go out (I have a RTL and a Slingshot) I am trying to do my part for our country and try not to be responsible for indirectly causing another's demise.

 

[Gwolf]

:agree: That's at least partly what we are seeing here in Australia now.... Little (growing?) pockets of COVID-19 infection appearing amongst the people working in 'essential services', including those in hospitals, supermarkets, & transport hubs et al. Anywhere people have to handle potentially infected patients, material, or even just goods & services - trucking yards, airports, railway & bus stations, even security guards & supermarket shelf packers!! :shocked: And all these 'essential workers' may have been infected, remain asymptomatic but contagious, & yet still remain at work for some days BEFORE they actually become sick!! So the virus spreads, because we move it!! :gaah:

I think it inevitable that we'll all have some exposure to it before this is all over, that's been the way with virulent virus infections since they started waaay back in the dawn of time!! :yikes: It's just a matter of containing the spread and reducing the total number of those affected/afflicted at any one time to a level low enough that our treatment & care centres can manage the treatment & case load without causing the collapse of the entire system. And don't for one moment think that if we survive this 'initial exposure' phase without causing said collapse that there won't be a rebound/phase 2 (& maybe phase 3?) as all those who missed out the first time round get infected as soon as we all think the worst is past & relax the controls!! It's almost certainly going to be a long haul to beat this one - that is, IF we ever do 'beat' it, rather than simply learn to accommodate it as we've done with so many other diseases.... the Common Cold, Influenza, Smallpox, and many more!! :shocked:

So for now, Practicing Safe Social Distancing and maintaining appropriate Hand Hygiene without repeatedly touching your eyes, nose, & mouth seems to be the best approach we have at this time in order to reduce the rate of COVID-19 spread and to minimise the potential viral load we might be exposed to, so that even if you do catch it, you'll likely only get a mild dose so that your body can safely develop immunity instead of something much worse! :shocked:

Altho I gotta admit, all this 'sanitising' and cleaning with antiseptics is rapidly destroying my ryding gear & playing right havoc with my Spyder's paint-work! :banghead:

Seems obvious watching the state map of what counties have virus infection and how many in my state. I look at the map most every day and it slowly filled in by county all down the east coast first......... following I-95 and A1A. Then it filled in from Tampa to the Georgia Border following right down I-75. Now it filling in the counties across the panhandle following along Interstate 10. If you had all the previous maps and arranged them in chronological order, you would see the spread of the virus following the major Interstate highways. It might skip a rural county if there is no large city or intersection in that county, but otherwise, it is almost exactly following the highways as the virus spreads across the state. People are moving along the highways and goods are moving along the highways. Not really much you could do to stop it. If you stop all the trucks, people will be starving to death in a week.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Seems obvious watching the state map of what counties have virus infection and how many in my state. I look at the map most every day and it slowly filled in by county all down the east coast first......... following I-95 and A1A. Then it filled in from Tampa to the Georgia Border following right down I-75. Now it filling in the counties across the panhandle following along Interstate 10. If you had all the previous maps and arranged them in chronological order, you would see the spread of the virus following the major Interstate highways. It might skip a rural county if there is no large city or intersection in that county, but otherwise, it is almost exactly following the highways as the virus spreads across the state. People are moving along the highways and goods are moving along the highways. Not really much you could do to stop it. If you stop all the trucks, people will be starving to death in a week.

Very interesting observation, I say. It would good if both the JH site and worldometer sites had previous map and graphs archived so we could see that progression.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Seems obvious watching the state map of what counties have virus infection and how many in my state. I look at the map most every day and it slowly filled in by county all down the east coast first......... following I-95 and A1A.

Maybe I'll get an answer of some worth this week. Our Governor is having a weekly Q&A about the epidemic on Idaho Public Television. I just sent a question for him to the program host asking whether truckers and delivery drivers are being tested. He says he is in regular contact with the Feds, and he's close enough to us ordinary mortals maybe the question will get to the top from here at the bottom!

 

[EdMat]

Maybe I'll get an answer of some worth this week. Our Governor is having a weekly Q&A about the epidemic on Idaho Public Television. I just sent a question for him to the program host asking whether truckers and delivery drivers are being tested. He says he is in regular contact with the Feds, and he's close enough to us ordinary mortals maybe the question will get to the top from here at the bottom!

I can answer that one. As of now there is NO mandatory testing for truckers. As all thing related to this virus it's subject to change.

 

[Bfromla]

:yes::yes: Found a mask :clap: & applied lil humor

 

[EdMat]

Today at work.

 

[Peter Aawen]

Today at work.

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Hey Ed, nice horns you've got growing out of the back of your head there! :shocked: Anything you want to share with the rest of us?!?






:roflblack: :joke:

 

[EdMat]

:yikes:

 

[mcalva]

Sorry to hear that, mcalva. Sounds like you are really doing it tough. Hang in there, mate, and here’s hoping the best for you and your wife :thumbup:

Pete

Take care. This bug does not understand that the guys from the Spyders are the best. Thank you.