Water in the cylinders using JT's air cleaner

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WATER SEEPAGE

Spyderfish here, 2013 STS, with JT air cleaner. Love the filter, takes away the need for the external scoops, allows access to the engine, and adds a certain edge to the soundprint. Here is what I see wrt the filter

The top of the air filter is concave, with the retaining stud dead center in the deepest part of the concave bowl. Overhead, the steering column is metal mesh, rain easily passes through. A rare coincidence of a heavy rain coupled with a small gap in the mounting stud, could allow water to pass through the mesh, collect in the top cover bowl and then pass through a gap between the stud bolt and the top cover. The water would not touch the filter element, straight into the throttle body.

Not a high probability, but enough to make me install an inverted pie pan over the cover. The pie pan is a couple inches larger in diameter than the filter, it has a flat top, and there is a rubber seal around the bolt. No water is going to collect or drain.

8 bucks brings a fair share of peace of mind.

....Question ....could the filter Cover be flipped to avoid the problem ?????? ...............Thanks Mike :thumbup:

 

[spyderfish]

....Question ....could the filter Cover be flipped to avoid the problem ?????? ...............Thanks Mike :thumbup:

Here are some before and after pics showing the filter before and after pie plate water shield. The filter attachment in the center is actually a bolt with lock washer, not a threaded stud, bad memory.

There is about 1 inch between the shield and the filter around the perimeter, I do not believe there is any suppression of airflow. This space could be filled with the foam wrapper from JT, but II have left it open.

As far as inverdion, I believe the bottom of the top plate of the filter housing is machined to have a flat surface that matches the seal on the filter element. Not totally sure on this.

Hope this helps clarify. :thumbup:

Spyderfish

 

[Bob Denman]

Ride more, worry less.

:agree: :thumbup:

 

[Warlock]

Here are some before and after pics showing the filter before and after pie plate water shield. The filter attachment in the center is actually a bolt with lock washer, not a threaded stud, bad memory.

There is about 1 inch between the shield and the filter around the perimeter, I do not believe there is any suppression of airflow. This space could be filled with the foam wrapper from JT, but II have left it open.

As far as inverdion, I believe the bottom of the top plate of the filter housing is machined to have a flat surface that matches the seal on the filter element. Not totally sure on this.

Hope this helps clarify. :thumbup:

Spyderfish

Did it quiet it up any at all. I know mine is loud.
David

 

[spyderfish]

Sound

Did it quiet it up any at all. I know mine is loud.
David

Sound level seems the same, loud enough for ear protection when accelerating. Foam might help, but I am dubious. The new open space above the engine is great for cooling and access, but is does act as a sound intensifier.

I just wear ear protection.

 

[pegasus1300]

Did it quiet it up any at all. I know mine is loud.
David

I put the muffler on mine and I find it fairly quiet. But then I have never run it without the muffler so I can't tell how much it quiets it down. I do know that I don't think it is much louder then stock.

 

[spyderfish]

Sound Level ST versus RT

I put the muffler on mine and I find it fairly quiet. But then I have never run it without the muffler so I can't tell how much it quiets it down. I do know that I don't think it is much louder then stock.

Just got in from 100 miles, paying a lot of attention to the sound. I noticed a lot of sound comig up at me from around the bars and steering column Notice in the attached pic, the steering column has a grating around the shaft, throttle and engine emanate through the gate, hit me in the face, and some sound waves bounce oof the windscreen and then hit me in the face.

My buddies RT has a solid fairing around the steering column, Ibelieve this blocks a lot of sound, so an RT would not increase sound level as much when the airboxes are removed.

I am considering attaching some fibrous insulation material behind the grating to block the sound. This will also cut down on cooling but I do not think that will be a problem.

Spyderfish

 

[Warlock]

Just got in from 100 miles, paying a lot of attention to the sound. I noticed a lot of sound comig up at me from around the bars and steering column Notice in the attached pic, the steering column has a grating around the shaft, throttle and engine emanate through the gate, hit me in the face, and some sound waves bounce oof the windscreen and then hit me in the face.

My buddies RT has a solid fairing around the steering column, Ibelieve this blocks a lot of sound, so an RT would not increase sound level as much when the airboxes are removed.

I am considering attaching some fibrous insulation material behind the grating to block the sound. This will also cut down on cooling but I do not think that will be a problem.

Spyderfish

I found the pre filter to fit the air filter. Ordered 2 of them. Was around $3.75 a piece. Will install one and see how it works. If still too loud I will add the other filter. I know the one JT sells is about a 1 or better thick. Will post my results sometime next week. Filters are suppose to be here next Wednesday or Thursday.
David

 

[oldgoat]

I put the muffler on mine and I find it fairly quiet. But then I have never run it without the muffler so I can't tell how much it quiets it down. I do know that I don't think it is much louder then stock.

I honestly think you must have a hearing problem.

Mine was extremely loud even with the extra foam ring around the outside & I wear earplugs.

So much nicer with the oem filter assembly back on.

Then again, maybe I have the hearing problem....ears too sensitive

 

[pegasus1300]

well old goat you may be right,but that's my experience.I have always tested sensitive on my ears also. Everybody has a different tolerance level.What works for one may not for another,it does for me.