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Watch out Elio....

So, how does an open three wheeler with a steering wheel compare to either a new or used Miata with air and an optionally enclosed cab if necessary?
 
Motorcycledave said:
Regarding Mr. PT Barnum “ there is a sucker born
every min.”
Julie and I went to the movies, our about once
a year movie out and saw The Greatest Showman.
I was hoping it would follow Barnum’s life and times
Well if you plan on going.....
It is not even close, if you go thinking as I did
you will come away wondering what you just watched.
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I was planning on seeing that movie. Barnum was born in Bethel CT. That's the next town over.
 
ThreeWheels said:
Was it a deliberate scam ?
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If it was a deliberate scam it was the slickest of all time.

ThreeWheels said:
Or did he just screw up big time ??
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I've met Paul Elio and seen his prototypes. I am convinced both he and the vehicle are for real. However, Paul is an engineer, not a financeer nor someone who has ever brought a product to market. In addition, he set some very ambitious goals for the vehicle and that may have been his undoing (and I am not conceding defeat for Elio Motors just yet). Unlike some other "inventors" who use the parts bin to cob together products Paul's idea necessitated inventing many sub-assemblies which is very expensive. In addition, part way through the prototyping process he made a deal with GM to lease/use one of their old factories in Louisiana and use part of the development money to get the plant ready for production. That may have been a huge error.

ThreeWheels said:
I'm reminded of the Tucker.
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There is little or no resemblance between Tucker and Elio. Tucker posed a threat to the Big 3 of the late 1940's and they went out of their way to ensure he could not bring his vehicles to market. Tucker actually built 51 working cars and drove them publicly to prove their products. Tucker's company "failed" due to collusion between the Big 3 and a Michigan senator aided by the media. He was accused of securities fraud and even though found innocent his company folded.

The one common thing that could be said about the two vehicles is that they both demonstrated significant new technology. In Elio's case it is the design (3 wheeler) and hyper mileage and the end design that makes it a "commuter car for the masses" (which was once the domain of the VW Beetle). In Tucker's case it was the use of a rear located air-cooled flat-six helicopter engine, safety features such as a collapsible steering wheel and uni-body construction and center headlight that followed the steering wheel.
 
Yes, the vultures are circling, Louisiana wants whatever few dollars Elio has left, hardly worth the effort. I think the State just wants them gone and this is the way to get it done.
 
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