windancer
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We just got back from a 1500 mile trip exploring the twisty roads of Colorado on our 2014 RTS. In 41,000 miles, the bike has never caused us any grief. I always do all services on the bike myself, thereby learning every swear word in the Canadian language.
Yesterday I installed an Ultimate Seat and Lamonsters "Magic Mirrors" (http://www.lamonstergarage.com/magic-mirrors-lamonster-approved-set-of-6/ ). If you do your own work, as I do, you will quickly appreciate these magnetic marvels--YOU GOTTA GET THESE!!
But after these upgrades, the bike's display was showing a steady VSS Error light. No other error. It runs fine, still able to get up to 90+ MPH.
In searching the collective wisdom of the SpyderLovers Forums, I tried the following:
1. pulled and reset every fuse & relay (it seems that relays crapped out on previous models--still true on 1330's??)
2. The only fault code is "C1183", which seems to translates to "Pillion rider switch (PRS) shorted to ground; Pillion rider switch voltage out of range--switch defective; Disconnect VCM & PRS connectors; Measure voltage between harness connector PRS-A & ground (expected value= 11 to 13 VDC; Measure resistance VCM-16 & GRD; Replace Pillion rider switch". Yeah, this is to be expected, as the new Ultimate seat we ordered didn't come with the "Bun Warmer Option" [never used it before, don't expect we'll need it in the future]
3. Battery seems healthy--standing voltage is ~12.4 volts. Bike starts up fine.
Any suggestions as to why we're getting the VSS fault?? The last thing I want to do is haul this monster to the dealer--2 hours away. I really don't trust them--their parts dept is horrible (the counter guy insisted that the boxed BRP oil change kit had the correct filters for ALL MODELS/ALL YEARS of Spyders. The only 'kit' they had was for the 990 engine. I Had to explain to him that the difference between 990 & 1330 engines was more than just 340 cc.] Their sales dept is more interested in selling ATVs, boats and Slingshots.
Questions:
1. Those magic mirror magnets are really REALLY R-E-A-L-L-Y strong!! Besides causing the recent series of hurricanes in Texas & Florida, massive forest fires in the Western States, and an 8.2 earthquake in Mexico, Could they also be upsetting something in our bikes sensitive VSS system?
2. Is the stock Spyder seat heater an integral part of the VSS system?
3. Do I take my life in my hands by RIDING the bike to the Stealer for their expert, thorough diagnosis (cough), wasting valuable riding time and cash.
4. Does the Dealers "BUDS" computer tell me things about the bike that the Mode-Set-Turn Signal dance won't?
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, as we are preparing for our next big trip soon.
Yesterday I installed an Ultimate Seat and Lamonsters "Magic Mirrors" (http://www.lamonstergarage.com/magic-mirrors-lamonster-approved-set-of-6/ ). If you do your own work, as I do, you will quickly appreciate these magnetic marvels--YOU GOTTA GET THESE!!
But after these upgrades, the bike's display was showing a steady VSS Error light. No other error. It runs fine, still able to get up to 90+ MPH.
In searching the collective wisdom of the SpyderLovers Forums, I tried the following:
1. pulled and reset every fuse & relay (it seems that relays crapped out on previous models--still true on 1330's??)
2. The only fault code is "C1183", which seems to translates to "Pillion rider switch (PRS) shorted to ground; Pillion rider switch voltage out of range--switch defective; Disconnect VCM & PRS connectors; Measure voltage between harness connector PRS-A & ground (expected value= 11 to 13 VDC; Measure resistance VCM-16 & GRD; Replace Pillion rider switch". Yeah, this is to be expected, as the new Ultimate seat we ordered didn't come with the "Bun Warmer Option" [never used it before, don't expect we'll need it in the future]
3. Battery seems healthy--standing voltage is ~12.4 volts. Bike starts up fine.
Any suggestions as to why we're getting the VSS fault?? The last thing I want to do is haul this monster to the dealer--2 hours away. I really don't trust them--their parts dept is horrible (the counter guy insisted that the boxed BRP oil change kit had the correct filters for ALL MODELS/ALL YEARS of Spyders. The only 'kit' they had was for the 990 engine. I Had to explain to him that the difference between 990 & 1330 engines was more than just 340 cc.] Their sales dept is more interested in selling ATVs, boats and Slingshots.
Questions:
1. Those magic mirror magnets are really REALLY R-E-A-L-L-Y strong!! Besides causing the recent series of hurricanes in Texas & Florida, massive forest fires in the Western States, and an 8.2 earthquake in Mexico, Could they also be upsetting something in our bikes sensitive VSS system?
2. Is the stock Spyder seat heater an integral part of the VSS system?
3. Do I take my life in my hands by RIDING the bike to the Stealer for their expert, thorough diagnosis (cough), wasting valuable riding time and cash.
4. Does the Dealers "BUDS" computer tell me things about the bike that the Mode-Set-Turn Signal dance won't?
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, as we are preparing for our next big trip soon.
