Updated software download

[steven888]

OK, Here it is. Had the updated software downloaded to the Spyder today. It took 15 to 20 min. They did it while I waited. without an appointment. I heard All kind's of bad and good thing's about the download. Well, I am so happy I did it. As soon as I started it I noticed it ran smoother. Because I was never fully happy with the way the bike ran and performed. So I noticed it right away. The throttle responds very smoothly now. I just can't believe BRP came through with this. Thank's to those guy's for taking care of us. On the highway it had better power quicker reaction the throttle and just over all great. The steering I did notice also. The steering feel's different. Kind of hard to explain. It also has better response an feel. Get it done and hope it all goes well. :2thumbs::clap:hyea:

 

[WaltH]

I am happy to hear someone else besides me noticed an improvement in drive-ability. I was beginning to doubt my senses. I wasn't looking for a performance improvement, other than the steering, so it came as a surprise. I too am very pleased with the results of the software update.

Now I wish I could get someone to tell me what other functionality is affected by the updates. They updated the ECM and the Cluster in addition to the DPS.

 

[Desert Spyder]

Write back in another week. I don't want to put a damper on this but after my :spyder2: was finally fixed it ran like a champ...just like yours. About a week later it started sputtering. Just like the others. Be prepared to disconnect your battery for 20-30 minutes if it does. I still would like to hear from you in about a week or more, even if nothing happens, nonetheless.

 

[effgjamis]

Write back in another week. I don't want to put a damper on this but after my :spyder2: was finally fixed it ran like a champ...just like yours. About a week later it started sputtering. Just like the others. Be prepared to disconnect your battery for 20-30 minutes if it does. I still would like to hear from you in about a week or more, even if nothing happens, nonetheless.

Ah Ha.....
Mine does not sputter, but when the throttle is at a fixed speed, it surges a bit.. grrrr.....

Going to put back on the Leo Vince and disconnect the battery AGAIN, for at least 30 minutes... Hopefully that will cure it for the time being. ( surge that is )

forrest

 

[Tom in NM]

Over two weeks now . . . .

. . . . . and over 600 miles (city & highway) since the update. No problems before the update, barely noticeable changes after, but what I did notice was nice. But over time it has gotten better - a lot better.
The engine does not seem to rev as high on the highway - feels smoother, not as sensitive to slight changes in the throttle.
Stock exhaust sounds deeper/richer, still quiet, which I like. There is a little throaty rumble when downshifting that was not there before, but no backfiring.
Shifting from Reverse to First is almost always so smooth and quiet I have to check what gear it is in - still get a clunk every so often going into Reverse, but it is around 1 time in 10, instead of 5 times out of 10.
Mileage has jumped up, so far I am estimating at around 10 MPG more, I was running around 33 MPG.
Down-shifting is what I call " a little more muscular ", but is more like other bikes I have ridden. It feels natural and nothing I would call surging.
Steering is improved and now is noticeably different. That has taken some adjustment and relearning on my part.

So, for me, nothing bad. It may have taken a little of the Sport out of it, but it "Cruises" and "Tours" so much nicer - which fits my style of riding. If these changes hold, well, I will put it this way, I would have happily paid $100 for these improvements. No one thing seems to be all that different, but they all add up to a very nice change or difference.

2008 SE5, all stock, 4,500 miles, 88 Octane (with Ethanol), 5,000' to 7,000' operating range, 85 - 117 degree temps - mostly triple digits, humidity under 15%

Tom

 

[bone crusher]

I think for preventative reasons...as i read through all these threads on the update...after it is done, disconnect the battery, then reattach and run the bike for 15 minutes (idling only)...shut it off...let it sit, then turn it on and ride it...whether you have a hindle, vince, micron, yoshi, etc...doesn't matter...this upgrade affects performance and the O2/fuel mixture is being affected...let the bike adjust...

This might help as computer updates usually need a re-boot and this is the best way of doing it...

 

[FANG]

had the update today - noticed a distinct difference in the steering and in throttle response. Only got a short ryde after the update today but am all .

 

[steven888]

300 miles after download.

300 miles after download. Still very happy with results. Glad I didn't buy the juice box for $300.00. Because I was looking for this exact fix and this was free. :clap:

 

[pitmon]

had the recall update

:dontknow:Had the recall update Saturday morning, rode about 150 miles afterward, noticed a big difference in the way the spyder ran. I had no problems with it before the update. Now I notice it surges and hesitates when running below 55 mph and smooths out somewhat at a higher speed. Changing gears helps somewhat but I still feel the surging. I did not notice any difference in the steering at all. I wish I had not had the update now because it doesn't run nearly as smooth as before. I am going to disconnect the battery overnight and see if that helps. I also think I am getting worse gas mileage than before (probably because of the surging). So far not happy with the "fix".

 

[Roaddog2]

:dontknow:Had the recall update Saturday morning, rode about 150 miles afterward, noticed a big difference in the way the spyder ran. I had no problems with it before the update. Now I notice it surges and hesitates when running below 55 mph and smooths out somewhat at a higher speed. Changing gears helps somewhat but I still feel the surging. I did not notice any difference in the steering at all. I wish I had not had the update now because it doesn't run nearly as smooth as before. I am going to disconnect the battery overnight and see if that helps. I also think I am getting worse gas mileage than before (probably because of the surging). So far not happy with the "fix".

I would bring it back something might have been done wrong mine has been running great after update around 800 since done :ani29:

 

[Recluze]

I was one of the guys that had the bad steering that prompted the recall. Before the recall I had my power steering unit changed for the second time. After 5500 miles it was still working great.

So I had the software upgrade. Now the handle bars are quite a bit loose at center. I can probably move the handles 2 to 3 degrees each way without making any input to the steering. Weird. It is a bother but I am going to live with it for now.

And the bike runs noticeably better. I always have had a hesitation/ surging in the 4000 RPM range when very hot. Now it seems to have mostly gone away.

After 30,000 miles I am still loving it. Reading this board I find there are a lot of problems out there that I don't have.

 

[GaryTheBadger]

2008 SE5 with 3500 miles, my observations after the update:

• No effect on steering effort
• No effect on engine temperature
• Slight increase in MPG
• Consistent slight hesitation or "sputtering" just off-idle in any gear

Its too soon to tell, but my wild guess is that its running lean now.
I'll disconnect the battery and see if that helps. Maybe check the spark plugs too.

How long does the battery need to be disconnected to properly reset the engine computer?

 

[RYDRS]

I had commented that I did not notice any difference with the latest update download on my SE5. Then yesterday I was noticing some odd shifting and clucking as well as the surging issue at a constant speed. I tried the battery removal idea last night to drain power and reset the onboard computer. Also left the key on to activate the circuits. Today I assembled all, warmed it up for 15 min. and shut it off. Let it cool and then went riding. It seemed to make a large difference in shifting and surging. Very smooth now. Lets hope it stays that way!!!:clap::clap:

 

[Tom in NM]

One answer and one question

2008 SE5 with 3500 miles, my observations after the update:

• No effect on steering effort
• No effect on engine temperature
• Slight increase in MPG
• Consistent slight hesitation or "sputtering" just off-idle in any gear

Its too soon to tell, but my wild guess is that its running lean now.
I'll disconnect the battery and see if that helps. Maybe check the spark plugs too.

How long does the battery need to be disconnected to properly reset the engine computer?

The range of time of having the battery disconnected I hear everyone talking about is 20 to 30 minutes. I would go with 30 minutes.

On another thread, someone asked if instead of disconnecting the battery to reset the computer if you could pull out a fuse (the 40 amp one specifically) or breaker module to get the same effect without all the hassle of a battery disconnect. Does this work?

Tom

 

[SpyderGirl]

Recluze, it's good to hear that you were one of the nine people who got their updates done at Marina Boats (which I assume is where you went) and have had no issues. When Dave asked me on Saturday when I took the Spyder in if they were going to do the update.... I told him "no" and told him about all the problems I've been hearing about. He was very interested in knowing what I heard and informed me that out of the 10 they had done already, one person had a problem with the surging that people have been talking about here.... that's 10% just at that dealer. I told him that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. He agreed... I'll be waiting for the update... 15K miles and very very few problems. I'm happy the way it is now.

 

[gnkc]

The range of time of having the battery disconnected I hear everyone talking about is 20 to 30 minutes. I would go with 30 minutes.

On another thread, someone asked if instead of disconnecting the battery to reset the computer if you could pull out a fuse (the 40 amp one specifically) or breaker module to get the same effect without all the hassle of a battery disconnect. Does this work?

Tom

Can someone confirm that by disconnecting the battery and resetting the computer, the sputtering problem goes away? If so, BRP should amend the procedure and make it part of the recall so that ya leave the dealer with a properly running bike that is reset for the apparent lean adjustment. If this were a car, I don't think anyone would expect to be yanking wires at home after a recall. Come on BRP!!

 

[spyderwoman]

aghhhhhh!!!!

i had posted on here last week about how my bike was running crappy after the software update. i had hubby unplug battery for about 15 minutes then let it run 10 minutes. we rode the devil's triangle this weekend and the bike ran horrible. the first 75 miles it did fine but we were at high speeds, easy roads. when we got to the mountains and started in the twisties it started sputtering and popping and would not get through the curves as smooth as it used to. the steering is great but when i give it the gas it hesitates so bad that i can't get it to power through the curve well. it is at its worst when it is at 5 bars(Temp) and i'm having to shift back and forth in 2nd and 3rd gears. you have to on the triangle! the next day we traveled 260 miles in one day. the first of the day it was great. i held my breath thinking maybe she was happy...but alas towards the last 100 miles it started it again. we were in 90 plus temps with high humidity and again hit some good twisties. i was so worn out when i got home and i just cried because my great running bike is now running so bad. should i uplug the battery again for longer time? 30 minutes? i do have a micron pipe. HELP!ray:

 

[WaltH]

I was one of the guys that had the bad steering that prompted the recall. Before the recall I had my power steering unit changed for the second time. After 5500 miles it was still working great.

So I had the software upgrade. Now the handle bars are quite a bit loose at center. I can probably move the handles 2 to 3 degrees each way without making any input to the steering. Weird. It is a bother but I am going to live with it for now.

And the bike runs noticeably better. I always have had a hesitation/ surging in the 4000 RPM range when very hot. Now it seems to have mostly gone away.

After 30,000 miles I am still loving it. Reading this board I find there are a lot of problems out there that I don't have.

I would take it back to the dealer and have the updated software for the DPS reinstalled. They also reset the DPS torque offset. There should be no tolerance (looseness) at dead center. The slightest movement of my handlebars will move the wheels, even at a dead stop (no forward movement). I can feel a very small "bump" at dead center with no forward movement (disappears with any movement), but there is no tolerance or looseness. For me, both of these aspects were improved by the updated software.

 

[Fun2]

Had One Spyder Done Today

Took about 30 min. no change in anything yet, rode about 30 mile. :2thumbs:Left the other Spyder there for first service and upgrade, pick that one up tomorrow hoping for the same results.:doorag:

 

[Zerocool]

I had the update done earlier this evening. No noticeable difference on the ride home... I'll repost after logging some miles.