Turning VSS off

[Fly boy]

It is really starting to make me angry when I'm in the corner and VSS keeps kicking on. Last night in the rain was the worst.

I don't know if its the search on this site, or operator error, but I didn't find anything that really helped answer...

Is there any way to turn it off?

 

[ARtraveler]

I don't think that is doable. You might not like the :spyder2: without the nanny.

 

[Fly boy]

I have read that it is not a good idea, the VSS will save the spyder from flipping, its unstable at high speeds, yada yada yada. I just want to know how to take it off to have some slow speed fun.

Last night was the final straw when I couldn't even take a turn on wet pavement without it kicking off. I would expect a little slide out, then be quickly thrown the other direction from VSS.

 

[fleegeds]

I read on an other site that there are 2 sensors on the rear wheel and if you move them to the front wheels it will basically allow you to burn the rear tire, but if you move all 4 to the back wheel it will turn the whole thing off. I think I search google for "turning off the nannies" and it showed up. I gave up on the idea after I got the front wheel off the ground a few times. now I am going to try to get a wider stance with new tires and rims.

Good luck.

 

[Raptor]

The general school of thought seems to be that moving all 4 sensors to the rear wheel is the best approach to take if the desire to defeat the VSS is really that strong.

Having said that, I still don't think it's a good idea, and I don't think anyone dislikes the nanny more than I!! The word "Lawn Dart" comes to mind. And I know, there are those that are of the opinion that they can handle it, but the machine becomes pretty evil without the systems intact and fully operational. I have just learned to live with it as is, and I have learned a few tricks to get as much out of the machine as possible. But this is just one of the reasons I am likely going to transition to 2 wheels. I dislike it that much...

 

[Firefly]

I have read that it is not a good idea, the VSS will save the spyder from flipping, its unstable at high speeds, yada yada yada. I just want to know how to take it off to have some slow speed fun.

Last night was the final straw when I couldn't even take a turn on wet pavement without it kicking off. I would expect a little slide out, then be quickly thrown the other direction from VSS.

First off--- what the heck is a 'red intake' ?:dontknow:

I've ridden my spyder with the VSS 'off' and let me tell ya-- you really don't want to ride that way. The nanny can actually teach you how to corner better.

Stiffen up your shocks, or better yet add some Elka's and once set right the nanny will not go off as much.:thumbup:

 

[NancysToy]

It is trying to tell you something, especially in bad conditions. A little gentler, smoother hand on the throttle, and a little refining of your technique under these conditions, and you will likely get fewer visits from Miss Nanny. nojoke

 

[Fly boy]

First off--- what the heck is a 'red intake' ?:dontknow:
Stiffen up your shocks, or better yet add some Elka's and once set right the nanny will not go off as much.:thumbup:

I think Len @ cowtown set the shocks in the middle. How do I stiffen them? I am getting wheel lift right now, will stiffening them, make them lift more?

It is trying to tell you something, especially in bad conditions. A little gentler, smoother hand on the throttle, and a little refining of your technique under these conditions, and you will likely get fewer visits from Miss Nanny. nojoke

I would have to yes, I definatly need to refine my techniques... Or atleast learn some technique. This machine is a breed of its own. As for the smoother throttle, I am used to a very tight throttle - barely touches and it moves, the spyder has a LOT of play in it.

, and I have learned a few tricks to get as much out of the machine as possible. But this is just one of the reasons I am likely going to transition to 2 wheels. I dislike it that much...

What are some tips you could give me? I am coming from a race bred CBR600 and just miss the power/speed of it.

 

[bullant12]

I think Len @ cowtown set the shocks in the middle. How do I stiffen them? I am getting wheel lift right now, will stiffening them, make them lift more?


I would have to yes, I definatly need to refine my techniques... Or atleast learn some technique. This machine is a breed of its own. As for the smoother throttle, I am used to a very tight throttle - barely touches and it moves, the spyder has a LOT of play in it.



What are some tips you could give me? I am coming from a race bred CBR600 and just miss the power/speed of it.

I guess we now know why you are "Fly boy"

 

[Fly boy]

I guess we now know why you are "Fly boy"

Tower, this is ghostrider requesting a fly by...

 

[Bob Denman]

:yikes: Nobody finds God on Prom Night...
Good luck; just don't be surprised with the results... nojoke

 

[Raptor]

I think Len @ cowtown set the shocks in the middle. How do I stiffen them? I am getting wheel lift right now, will stiffening them, make them lift more?


I would have to yes, I definatly need to refine my techniques... Or atleast learn some technique. This machine is a breed of its own. As for the smoother throttle, I am used to a very tight throttle - barely touches and it moves, the spyder has a LOT of play in it.



What are some tips you could give me? I am coming from a race bred CBR600 and just miss the power/speed of it.

For the Shock adjust, the owner's manual has a pretty good section on how to do this. There is tool specifically for this purpose in your tool kit.

As far as cornering technique, you will never come close to how your CBR corners. It just aint gonna happen! However, using certain aspects - refining your oustide-inside-outside technique and taking a later apex will alter the radius of the turn and put less force on the chassis, thereby quieting all the sensors down and reducing the effects of the VSS. I also have found ways to shift my weight down, forward and toward the inside wheel to help keep it planted which reduces roll. Sometimes I'm hangin' off of 14 pretty good when I'm really on it! This also helps keep the bars straighter which quiets the steering sensor(s).

But the biggest factor of all is being smooth - develop better awareness of space and time, hit your braking points and execute in a smooth fashion so you can roll on throttle and power out of exit. It does take some time and it can be pretty physical if you are pushing hard but you can get good results. Again, no comparison to the CBR but pretty fun!

Others may have other insight as well, but that's how I roll! As always, ride within your abilities and be safe (that is my official disclaimer!) but since you are a CBR pilot I'm quite sure the ability is there! :thumbup:

 

[Firefly]

In cornering slide forward and out into the corner to hold the inside wheel down. A stiffer spring setting can make the wheel lift easier - but you get less 'roll' and thus less 'bouncing rebound'. This is where shifting your weight comes in to hold her down.

Shock adjustment is easy- there is a special tool in your tool kit to do the adjustment. It's best to jack the bike up from the frame to take pressure off the shocks--- then you gently adjust them one notch at a time. Depending on your weight - a setting of 3 very well may be too light. If you're around 200 lbs or more than 3 is for sure too light of a setting.

Feathering the clutch in slow speed turns can help a bit... I've got it down to a pretty good science and can spin the Spyder 180 degrees on grass, a bit of loose gravel or wet pavement without the engine being killed. Warning---- I did this in Cuba one night on wet pavement and it caught on a dry area and raised a front tire up a good foot or more--- got some funny looks from those around me-----

Remember, the nanny will cut the gas when you turn the bars and the rear tire spins - and yes it's a bit of a pain when taking off sometimes. I do wish it was adjustable or wouldn't kick in until 30 mph (taken from the fronts!).

But the nanny is really pretty amazing. Ride the Dragon like a Huligan in TN sometime and you'll never want to ride without her. As you power through the curves - hanging off the side for dear life--- when you probably can't get your foot on the brake if you wanted to--- you'll feel the nanny braking FOR you. It's pretty darn cool once you get used to it-- hitting the curves fast and having her do the braking without cutting the engine--- awesome!

 

[jedd]

Flyboy have you ever driven a snowmobile? If not have any buddies that do? I use alot of the same body english that I did for aggressive trail riding. So much that I wish our seating platform was designed more like a sled. Longer seat and full length running boards. Move you body weight into corners stretch your chin up over the inside fender as far as you can. Try to brake before entry easily accelerate at entry carry through if timing is right you can accel real hard during exit. I understand what you mean I'd be dead on a CBR but this is much more like a sled than a bike

Be safe and ride like its a rental

Jim:thumbup:

 

[DragonSpyder]

Simply remove the rear wheel sensors and tape them to the frame. No more nanny! You will also want to pull the power steering fuse or you will get assist at higher speeds which is not a good idea.

 

[SethO]

In cornering slide forward and out into the corner to hold the inside wheel down. A stiffer spring setting can make the wheel lift easier - but you get less 'roll' and thus less 'bouncing rebound'. This is where shifting your weight comes in to hold her down.

Shock adjustment is easy- there is a special tool in your tool kit to do the adjustment. It's best to jack the bike up from the frame to take pressure off the shocks--- then you gently adjust them one notch at a time. Depending on your weight - a setting of 3 very well may be too light. If you're around 200 lbs or more than 3 is for sure too light of a setting.

Feathering the clutch in slow speed turns can help a bit... I've got it down to a pretty good science and can spin the Spyder 180 degrees on grass, a bit of loose gravel or wet pavement without the engine being killed. Warning---- I did this in Cuba one night on wet pavement and it caught on a dry area and raised a front tire up a good foot or more--- got some funny looks from those around me-----

Remember, the nanny will cut the gas when you turn the bars and the rear tire spins - and yes it's a bit of a pain when taking off sometimes. I do wish it was adjustable or wouldn't kick in until 30 mph (taken from the fronts!).

But the nanny is really pretty amazing. Ride the Dragon like a Huligan in TN sometime and you'll never want to ride without her. As you power through the curves - hanging off the side for dear life--- when you probably can't get your foot on the brake if you wanted to--- you'll feel the nanny braking FOR you. It's pretty darn cool once you get used to it-- hitting the curves fast and having her do the braking without cutting the engine--- awesome!

Flyboy have you ever driven a snowmobile? If not have any buddies that do? I use alot of the same body english that I did for aggressive trail riding. So much that I wish our seating platform was designed more like a sled. Longer seat and full length running boards. Move you body weight into corners stretch your chin up over the inside fender as far as you can. Try to brake before entry easily accelerate at entry carry through if timing is right you can accel real hard during exit. I understand what you mean I'd be dead on a CBR but this is much more like a sled than a bike

Be safe and ride like its a rental

Jim:thumbup:

truth. Get aftermarket shocks and a swaybar so you can adjust for the body roll. I can just feel below my chest and I can do at least double the posted, this is of course dangerous and blah, blah blah. The big this to remember is that you will lose even to a prius if you go over the line but it is easier to go faster with those two add ons.

 

[Bob Denman]

Flyboy have you ever driven a snowmobile? If not have any buddies that do? I use alot of the same body english that I did for aggressive trail riding. So much that I wish our seating platform was designed more like a sled. Longer seat and full length running boards. Move you body weight into corners stretch your chin up over the inside fender as far as you can. Try to brake before entry easily accelerate at entry carry through if timing is right you can accel real hard during exit. I understand what you mean I'd be dead on a CBR but this is much more like a sled than a bike

:agree: Smoothness and weight transfer is the name of the game... :thumbup:

 

[johnboyjohn.pretious]

Hope you have not made the mistake that some have before you.

Spyder is NOT a bike !!!!!!!!!!

:2thumbs:

 

[docdoru]

Spyder is NOT a bike !!!!!!!!!!:2thumbs:

:agree:

 

[Bob Denman]

:yikes::shocked::yikes::shocked::yikes: Is your organ donor card filled out?? nojoke