A lot of people with LOW post counts are those who just don't care to post! Lurkers, followers, whatever you care to call them. But, don't belittle them, talk down to them. They are here for the information available. Most of which the dealers are clueless. As far as BRP fixing all the problems. There is little incentive for them to do so. No bad press, the motorcycle mags haven't said a thing. And people like the low count posters keep buying a flawed product. BRP is reaping the income $$$, and still selling a flawed product hoping no one notices. Victory went through this in the very beginning. But when they had a bike that a dealer just couldn't figure out. That biked got shipped to one of the better dealers to straighten out. The dealer that I bought from had the the #1 rated tech in the country. The factory engineers often called him with problem cases to help out other dealers. nojoke BRP is a big company! Their product shows a lack of testing and quality control before releasing to the public for sale. :banghead: Tom :doorag: