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Too Bad That'll It'll Never Get Out Of The Senate...

Bob Denman said:
I hope you realize that this Bill is attached to one that'll improve the background checks?
Coupled with THAT: I'm all for it! :thumbup:
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Improving background checks is just plugging one small leak in the dam; there are other much larger ones.

Like a "private" party being able to sell guns to anybody, even in places like gun shows, without ANY checks at all.
Then there is the ability to order an entire gun one piece at a time with no restrictions.
 
Bob Denman said:
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What is a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" anyway? :dontknow:
Who would YOU rob? :yikes:
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If you had actually read my whole post, there was one good example.

And that "criminal taking time to think out who might be the least risky target" is largely devoid of any real substance.........BECAUSE the criminal almost always has the barrel in your face before you know it and whether or not you are "carrying" makes no difference. Once he has the drop on you, reaching for your piece is MORE likely to get you killed.

Most of the pro-gun arguments are based more on emotions than on facts.
 
The Private Sale loophole has been exaggerated... nojoke
Most private party transfers are between individuals who know one another.
Or better yet: they're related!
I think that I know my family and friends well enough to know which ones should (or shouldn't!) handle firearms. :thumbup:
Ordering guns online... that's just a myth. :lecturef_smilie:
You'll still need to have your background checked out.
 
Easy Rider said:
But we can't AFFORD to do better checks......or to close the "loopholes" and make illegal sales "iron clad".....because the priority is on tax cuts for the wealthy individuals and corporations. :mad:

Do we really want to have the "gun" discussion here ??

The problem is multi-faceted. We screwed up big time about 30 years ago when most of the government funding for mental health care stopped.
THEN we allowed the "legitimate" gun lobby to create a mess where even the universally agreed upon restrictions almost can't be enforced.
Guns themselves are not THE problem. But the mass proliferation of guns certainly IS a significant part of the problem.

A good start would be to stop referring to gun laws as "control" and instead call it what it is: restrictions.

Being mostly on the outside of the heated part of the debate, I was shocked when leafing through a sporting magazine in a waiting room a few weeks ago and seeing several ads for "weapons of mass destruction", one of which was one that claimed to be able to fire something like 15 12ga rounds in 8 seconds. Every deer hunter in the US certainly needs one of those. :lecturef_smilie:
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Finally - Someone with common sense.
 
Did not take long to get a bunch of comments. We will have to wait and see what Congress does--I for one, am not going to hold my breath.

On paper--looks and sounds good. Add amendments (and that is what happens to everything) and it becomes a muddy mess.

That is what happens when the foxes are in charge of the chicken coop. :thumbup:
 
newbert said:
Being mostly on the outside of the heated part of the debate, I was shocked when leafing through a sporting magazine in a waiting room a few weeks ago and seeing several ads for "weapons of mass destruction", one of which was one that claimed to be able to fire something like 15 12ga rounds in 8 seconds. Every deer hunter in the US certainly needs one of those. :lecturef_smilie:
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Nothing anywhere in the 2nd amendment is about hunting deer, it is about the right to defend oneself.

UtahPete said:
Do you have an unbiased source for this claim?
Anyone who doesn't have their head up their a**
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That counts you out as a source!
 
Fatcycledaddy said:
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Do you have an unbiased source for this claim?
Anyone who doesn't have their head up their a**

That counts you out as a source!
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That's fair...forgot my :joke:
 
It always is amazing how hard it is to pass something for "law abiding citizens " . The government will pass laws easily that help the Criminally insane, Common Criminals and Drug addicts avoid having to follow the law.
 
ES44AC said:
It always is amazing how hard it is to pass something for "law abiding citizens " . The government will pass laws easily that help the Criminally insane, Common Criminals and Drug addicts avoid having to follow the law.
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Wouldn't it be nice if all laws had a sunset clause, which would force lawmakers to rethink social policy every 10 years or so?

And, all lawmakers had meaningful term limits.
 
Easy Rider said:
If you had actually read my whole post, there was one good example.

And that "criminal taking time to think out who might be the least risky target" is largely devoid of any real substance.........BECAUSE the criminal almost always has the barrel in your face before you know it and whether or not you are "carrying" makes no difference. Once he has the drop on you, reaching for your piece is MORE likely to get you killed.

Most of the pro-gun arguments are based more on emotions than on facts.
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Really? But not the anti-gun arguments, I suppose. :hun:
 
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