To loud

[bone crusher]

i have a stock can on the spyder....i used to have a 650 savage on which i had a jardine muffler...VERY LOUD.....while im not much into listening to it for myself, there is merit to having loud pipes in that people know u are there....that is definitely a fact..and it sounds sweet to some...i like the sound, but i would rather not sit on it all day...

different strokes....:thumbup:

I'm not sure the louder mufflers are that much more noticeable...if someone in a cage is listening to music loudly, they're not gonna hear you...

Color has been proven to be the most important factor in being seen...talk to the fire departments...they have all the stats on this...

I think the hindle is 'loud enough'...then again, this is all opinion. I'll go further by simply saying that knowing that loud mufflers WILL create deafness over time, I don't see the need to have one. Even if a louder pipe made people notice me more, I wouldn't use one at the expense of becoming deaf...bright colors alone will make me more visible...as Scotty pointed out, this has been studied...

NASCAR drivers use earplugs...there is a reason for this...loud pipes are beyond threshold for damage...earplugs should be worn...

 

[Spyder#353]

:yes: My neighbor ask me the other day if I changed the muffler. He said the noise isn't that bad. I told him I put baffles in. I haven't done anything. :roflblack::roflblack:hyea:

 

[Dudley]

That is actually not true. Recent studies have shown that the only thing that statistically improves motorcycle noticeability and visibility is hi-vis clothing, including bright helmets. The more visible, higher location of a brightly clothed rider, combined with the rider's movements, do attract attention. That does not come as a surprise to me. With loud stereo systems, passengers and other distractions, as well as cars designed to be far quieter inside than ever before, it is a gamble whether any noise can be sufficient to attract attention. Even if it is, do we really want to gamble that it will make us noticeable, instead of startling a driver and causing an adverse reaction?
-Scotty

Very simple fact. I have always said noise distracts and can startle drivers and cause accidents. Cars don't use loud mufflers to make other drivers know they are there. Drive defensively, that's the key to survival

 

[bone crusher]

Very simple fact. I have always said noise distracts and can startle drivers and cause accidents. Cars don't use loud mufflers to make other drivers know they are there. Drive defensively, that's the key to survival

Good point! :agree:

 

[M2Wild]

Doing 70mph today on my way to work I noticed my Hindle noise is loud enough to make someone look back when they are about 25 yards ahead. Not bad !!!

 

[SLO RYDER]

LOUD Pipes Don't Save Lives

Bottom line loud exhausts just cause stupid laws to be invoked against us.

I was sitting in a out door cafe in Solvang CA when a bunch of bikes showed up. I noticed several customers remarking on how beautiful the bikes were as they were backing them into parking spots, then a few bikes started rapping their pipes. The conversations changed dramaticly to the negative.

I hope we don't legislate ourselves out of existence. Just my two cents!!

 

[ingramwc]

If someone looked back from 25 yds. ahead, they saw you in the mirror, they did not hear you. If traveling at highway speeds you cannot hear
loud pipes behind you. I do not hear them until they are next to my vehicle. Best advice; Drive like you are invisible! Wear bright colors.
Just my $.02.

Wes

 

[Director]

If someone looked back from 25 yds. ahead, they saw you in the mirror, they did not hear you. If traveling at highway speeds you cannot hear
loud pipes behind you. I do not hear them until they are next to my vehicle. Best advice; Drive like you are invisible! Wear bright colors.
Just my $.02.

Wes

:agree: IIRC, the Doppler Effect is the scientific explanation for this pheomenon. If you like the sound of loud pipes, that's fine, but please don't for a moment buy into the argument that they will somehow make you safer. For real safety, there is no substitute for situational awareness, scanning and planning well ahead, regularly checking your mirrors, and practising conspicuity in clothing and lighting.

Bruce

 

[GaryTheBadger]

Can the Hindle be lowered to clear the Corbin / BRP / Givi hard cases?
Will the Hindle yield beter gas mileage? About how much?
Is there a less-expensive source for the Hindle besides BRP?

 

[wyliec]

:agree: IIRC, the Doppler Effect is the scientific explanation for this pheomenon. If you like the sound of loud pipes, that's fine, but please don't for a moment buy into the argument that they will somehow make you safer. For real safety, there is no substitute for situational awareness, scanning and planning well ahead, regularly checking your mirrors, and practising conspicuity in clothing and lighting.

Bruce

:agree:

 

[bjt]

Can the Hindle be lowered to clear the Corbin / BRP / Givi hard cases?
Will the Hindle yield beter gas mileage? About how much?
Is there a less-expensive source for the Hindle besides BRP?

The Hindle cleared my I7 Givi rack. It should be the same with the BRP and Givi brand racks. The Corbin bags move the mount for the exhaust lower so the Hindle will work with that setup also. If the Hindle does increase fuel economy, I'm sure its very small and probably offset by a change in your riding style with the more powerful sounding exhaust.

 

[GaryTheBadger]

Thank you BJT.