I have a 2015 Spyder RT. This Spring I replaced the tires with car tires. I have put about 6,000 miles on these tires. The Rear with General Altimax and the front with Federal AZ01 tires. I removed the wheels and mounted the tires myself. I have a local tire dealer that has a new late model tire balancer. He could balance the front tires but could not balance the rear tire. I purchased from Lamonster Garage a set of centrimatic wheel balancers. I had always used these on my Gold Wing’s and really liked them. When I got them I put the one on the rear wheel but at that time I did not put the front ones on because the Spyder was real smooth. At that time I installed Bajaron Sway Bar and Doc’s vibration damper. Lamonster Garage had sent me a 32 oz. bottle of AmerSeal. Being I am leaving for Sturgis next Sunday today I decided to put the AmerSeal in my tires. I put as close as I could 10 oz’s in rear and 7 oz’s in each front tires. I also decided to remove the weights from my front wheels and put the centrimatic balancer’s on the front. When I did this I marked where and what weights were on each wheel. After putting in the AmerSeal and installing the centrimatic balancer’s I when for a ride. My front fenders, windshield vibrated and shook terrible. It really worried me not knowing if it was the AmerSeal or tire balance. I could not leave it that way. I pulled the front wheels off replaced the same weight where they were and removed the centrimatic balancers. I took it for another ride and it smooth right out. I could not believe it. The first ride I tried to run it up to 80 miles an hour but it shook too much. Second ride I ran it up to 100 mile an hour and it was pretty smooth. I don’t know if the tires were too much out of balance for the centrimatic balancer’s. One tire had 3- ½ oz with a ¼ oz weight. The other tire had 3-1/4 oz weights. Evidently the AmerSeal did not have any effect because I have it in the tires. I just cannot believe the centrimatic balancer’s did not work better. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Tire Balancing
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
TIRE BALANCING
This is interesting because BRP did something similar .....the Spyders used to have a D.E.S.S. module that worked fine ..... So the engineers decided to fix and or make it better ........we all know how well that worked out ( you especially )......
Highwayman2013
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I think it has to do with the diameter of the Centramatic balancers. Not a lot of room behind the front wheels. You could try putting them back on now. I balanced my new front tires with weights and centamatics. No Ameriseal though.
I wander if they are a little small in diameter. If I remember right I think my Gold Wing had two on the front wheel. I know they really worked great on the three Gold Wing's I had.
I think I am going to leave mind like it is with the front wheels balanced with weights and the AmerSeal in the tires with the centrimatic balancer on the rear. It seems to run pretty smooth. I did check the centrimatic balancers for the front wheel of the Gold Wing. They are about the same diameter of the front for the Spyder but they do use two one on each side of the front wheel. This may be why they work so well on the Gold Wing. On the Spyder there is no way for larger diameter or would be able to put two on.
I do like the looks of the AmerSeal and do have it in all three tires. I don't think it effects the balance after you are moving at a good speed.
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
VREDESTEIN TIRES
Since I discovered these tires more and more folks here are trying them .... so far the feedback has been very positive :clap: ...... So please keep the feedback coming ..... especially in wet weather riding ....... I think they may be the best performing tire in the wet currently available ( of course the dry handling is even better ).........Mike :thumbup:
JayBros
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Important Additional Information
Lamont told me about the information below that appears in the information about the front wheel Centramatic balancers.
"Because of the limited space we have to work with the most product they can get in the Spyder ring is 3oz. If you have a wheel and tire that needs more than that, he recommends zero balancing the tire as best you can and then using the Centramatic as a dynamic balancer. This will compensate for tire wear and adjust as needed to a wheel that's not quite right. So we now recommend that you see how many weights you have on your wheel and if it's 3oz or more to leave the weights on."
Lamont told me about the information below that appears in the information about the front wheel Centramatic balancers.
"Because of the limited space we have to work with the most product they can get in the Spyder ring is 3oz. If you have a wheel and tire that needs more than that, he recommends zero balancing the tire as best you can and then using the Centramatic as a dynamic balancer. This will compensate for tire wear and adjust as needed to a wheel that's not quite right. So we now recommend that you see how many weights you have on your wheel and if it's 3oz or more to leave the weights on."
Thanks for this information. Both my front wheels were under the 3ozs. One had 1-3/4 ozs and the other had 3/4 oz. I wander if the AmerSeal would cause some off balance. Tomorrow I may put the centrimatic balancers back on with the weights and try it. I know the centrimatic balancers work but maybe my tires and wheels are out of balance to far.
Jeffmal
New member
Vredestein tire update
To the best of my knowledge I have the only Spyder on this forum rolling Vredestein quatrain 5 on all 3 wheels. As I stated in a previous post the fronts are super smooth and handle great. Today I went on a group ryde and there was a torrential downpour that was kinda freaky bad! I really don’t think any tires could have handled this, but not sure. My rear slid out slightly once and regained control fast. The roads were full of standing water and we slowed it down to 45 mph...I don’t know how much this helps and I didn’t hear or see any real hydroplaning during this storm from the rest of the group (12 Spyder s ).
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Jeffmal
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balancing Vredesteins
I should mention that my Vredesteins did need a few balance weights but roll nice and smooth...No balancing in the tires!
Jeffmal
New member
Yes, they run great ( until you get a nice gust of wind,lol ). The important thing to know on the Vredestein quatrac 5 is they are all season tires which means
they handle fairly well in all weather conditions including snow. The sportrac 5 are summer tires and are better rated on wet roads. In Florida, I definitely would have preferred
the sportac 5 but they are difficult to find for the fronts! We don't see much snow in South Fl...
teninospyder
Member
what size tire ?
Mike, I know you have mentioned this tire before, but I couldn't find the size for "exact match to 2014 RTL fronts". What "different" size should I be looking for? :banghead:
Mike, I know you have mentioned this tire before, but I couldn't find the size for "exact match to 2014 RTL fronts". What "different" size should I be looking for? :banghead:
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
That tire
Look on-line at vulcantire.com , they are a seller ..... 165/65-15,....or a 175/55-15 ...... they have nice prices .... Mike :thumbup:
Jeffmal
New member
I went with the 175, they are slightly wider and fit under the fenders with no issues.
The rear is a 205.
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