Time to buy/order soon need some dealer advice.

[Osros]

I like to arm myself as much as possible before I sit down with the dealer on a new buy of a ST, this is the part I hate the am I getting screwed experience. I only purchased 2 cars in my life one used one new and never liked the experience. Have never purchase a motorcycle before so don't know what dealers can work with on pricing. I will have a decent $5,000 to put down.

How much are dealers coming down off MSRP? Ballpark.
Can I expect them to be firm-ish on pricing of the new for 2013 ST line?
Do I get a deal on the bike first then add on the options or get a total price then see what's they can do on the whole package?
BEST warranty is that price firm or can be work with, how much you paid?

I visited two dealers so far not to deal or price just to look and demo drive. One dealer was almost non existent, had a question he gave me the training class info and pretty much disappeared after, so I left. The other dealer was busy but still very helpful and took the time for some pointers and let me demo drive a RS and RT this guy knows I want a ST. :yes:

I think i will price 2 or 3 dealers and get the lowest price and see if my closest place will match. I live in North Texas 60miles away from Dallas I'm willing to travel some if worth it, I like the dealer I buy from to do all my service as well. Any advice on above questions or good or bad experience with dealers will be helpful. If you have dealer that been great around my area let me know would be awesome to know now.

Thanks

 

[Dib52]

Don't expect a lot of movement on the price, the ST being a new model sticker will more than likely be what you get.
Load it up right away and see what they'll do. Adding equipment after will just add cost down the line.
As far as dealers, I've delt with 2 down here...Richardson MotorSports and North Texas Yamaha. Like my experience at both, but I use them for different things. We ended up buying from RMS due to proximity to the house and believed that they would do all of the servicing. However, I have switched to having NTY doing all of the service work. They have one of the best spyder techs around. I drive a little more but feel good about the decision. If we buy a 2nd spyder, we'd probably go through NTY for everything.
That being said, the experience has been positive at both of the dealers!

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: There'll most likely be little to no movement from the MSRP on a new model...
You're making a VERY good choice! :thumbup: (Rode one!)

 

[JkRbbt]

What do ya'll think we could expect on the RS and RT? Any dealing, do you think? Those won't be new models, but will be a new year offering. Any comment from folks who bought new vehicles right out of the chute in 2010, 2011, 2012? Appreciate any comments because I LOVE new vehicles, but HATE the "transition" phase.

 

[Bob Denman]

The improvements that they made to the front suspension and braking systems are across the board... :2thumbs:

 

[Mr. White]

New model, not a lot of wiggle room. I have bought a few scoots in my 80 years and find the "lowest price" is not the always the "best Price". Your dealer can make a big difference, especially with a Spyder. Spyder's require certain skills and service equipment. I ordered my RT-S as I wanted red. My dealer reduced the retail $2,000 BUT added $500 for freight and $500 for assembly of the RT. Not real good, BUT they gave me 15% off any options (foot rest, CB, GPS, FX radio and flashing stop light on trunk) and installed all free (if purchased with new scoot and installed as they put it together. Expensive after it is assembled). I am happy and they are happy. They have a very good tech and give me 15% off labor and parts for oil and filter changes. Like I say, there are lot's of things you can bargain for....besides the purchase price.

Extended maintinance contract (BEST) is priced by the dealer...I have heard $750 to $1,200, I got mine for $800 and well worth it as the Spyder does have problems once in a while....offer $750 as see how high he jumps....ya can always go up.

I hear good things about a dealer in Greenville...no experience with them, but read good reports. If a dealer does not pay any attention when trying to sell you a scoot, what will he do after you buy it....NOTHING!

Good luck.

 

[ARtraveler]

Big Red is right on with what he says. The lowest price does not always equal the dealer with the best service. Some dealers give you a hard time about service if you did not buy the :spyder2: there. The :ani29: is very technical and the servicing dealer can really make a difference as to whether or not you will have a good experrience. Dealers that ignore you--enough said about that. I am guessing there will not be a lot of wheeling and dealing on the new STS. Because of all the hype so far, I am guessing MSRP or some actual gouging because of demand. You will make your deals on options and service items like warranty. These are the high % markup things and the dealer has more room there.

Let us know what you decide.

 

[JkRbbt]

Thanx for the input, guys. Very helpful. I'll look into some of those things when I "bargain" because I tend to be a pretty good ($$$) customer after the fact! Don't even have a Spyder yet, but I have been looking at the farkle manual. As always, the bike is just the beginning!

Cheers!

 

[Bob Denman]

, but I have been looking at the farkle manual. As always, the bike is just the beginning!

"The farkle's the thing!" :2thumbs: :roflblack:

 

[mcaccamise]

If you are lookig to wheel and your best bet would be on a new 2012 that the Dealers are trying to move out for the 13's i walked out the door with a $3000.00 savings on a 12 modle tax tag and title to the door delivery.
But than again if you crave the latest and demand the STS look at Dealer first and price second.
Mike

 

[Osros]

Thanks all for the input. I thought that would be the case with a new model STS, I guess will hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I will see what can be done on the options and such. Im a bit confused on options on BigRed's post when I order my ST will it not come from factory all options I wanted installed? Im not getting the $500 for RT assembly what am I missing there?

 

[Tazzel]

I do most of negotiating online. Also an out of state dealer may give you the best price. I have noticed that the largest dealers are not always the best. I do not agree with buyingfrom a dealer because that is where you will be taking your bike in for servicing. Here in Denver Colorado some Spyder owners drive 2 hours to a smaller dealership to get service done because they do not price gouge for required maintenance. Remember you have all the power. Some dealers (mostly the bigger ones) just won’t deal because they know that after you, the next 3 suckers willbe walking in right behind you.

 

[MouthPiece]

Thanks all for the input. I thought that would be the case with a new model STS, I guess will hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I will see what can be done on the options and such. Im a bit confused on options on BigRed's post when I order my ST will it not come from factory all options I wanted installed? Im not getting the $500 for RT assembly what am I missing there?

It's called "dealer prep" in our state. Brace yourself.

Chris

 

[Cuffs19]

The $500 fee you're talking about is the cost you pay the dealer to 1.) remove the unassembled product from the crate. 2.) assemble the bike according to manufacturer specs. 3.) fill and check fluids and test ride for safety.... Any additional "add ons" is probably gonna cost you more. Like BR1 said, you might be able to negotiate the price to add on aftermarket parts during the assembly process as the bike will already be "broken down". If you wait to put add ons on later, they may have to remove parts to install your add ons, which rachets up the labor costs.....

 

[NancysToy]

I do most of negotiating online. Also an out of state dealer may give you the best price. I have noticed that the largest dealers are not always the best. I do not agree with buyingfrom a dealer because that is where you will be taking your bike in for servicing. Here in Denver Colorado some Spyder owners drive 2 hours to a smaller dealership to get service done because they do not price gouge for required maintenance. Remember you have all the power. Some dealers (mostly the bigger ones) just won’t deal because they know that after you, the next 3 suckers willbe walking in right behind you.

The Spyder will come in whatever trim package you order, with the options which compose that trim level installed. Additional options that you may order are dealer (or owner) installed. One thing you can bargain over is the dealer installation costs. Dealer installation is a good idea sometimes, since options ordered with the Spyder, intalled by the dealer before delivery, and specifically listed on the warranty registration, have the same 2-year warranty as the Spyder, rather than the usual 90-day warranty.