Throttle Body update 2011-7

[Mr. White]

Have you had 2011-7 done and did it help performance or .........? I think it is just to allow the throttle body to work better. I am scheduled to get mine done next week, but have not had any problems to date.

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[spyder3]

Have you had 2011-7 done and did it help performance or .........? I think it is just to allow the throttle body to work better. I am scheduled to get mine done next week, but have not had any problems to date.

:spyder2:

i had mine done yesterday @ J & J powersports in DE. I haven't noticed a difference in the ride.:dontknow:

 

[REDSPY]

Had mine done today. Rode home 100 miles and did not notice any difference.

 

[NancysToy]

This is not to allow the throttle to work better. Owners of 2011 RTs need to have this done without hesitation. The 2010 RTs had a problem with hot restarts. To address this, BRP programmed the ECM to hold the throttle body on the 2011s closed after shutting the Spyder down. Some of you have noted the high pitched whine after shutting the Spyder off. Unfortunately, this is causing some of the throttle positioners to fail. BRP has revised the programming, and has issued the update as part of Warranty Bulletin 2011-7. To prevent possible damage to your throttle body, and the possibility of the Spyder being rendered inoperable, you need to have this update done if you own a 2011 RT. If BUDS shows the throttle body may have been damaged already, you will need a new throttle body, too. Mine was replaced this week. The update should not affect how the throttle operates or how the Spyder performs. I noticed no difference on mine.

 

[GeoffCee]

Some of you have noted the high pitched whine after shutting the Spyder off. Unfortunately, this is causing some of the throttle positioners to fail. BRP has revised the programming, and has issued the update as part of Warranty Bulletin 2011-7.

I have had the 2011-7 update done but I still hear a high pitched whine, quieter than before I think, but it's still there. This follows any switching on and off of the ignition whether or not the motor is run. It lasts a while but I haven't timed it, maybe 20 or 30 seconds or so. :dontknow:

 

[NancysToy]

I have had the 2011-7 update done but I still hear a high pitched whine, quieter than before I think, but it's still there. This follows any switching on and off of the ignition whether or not the motor is run. It lasts a while but I haven't timed it, maybe 20 or 30 seconds or so. :dontknow:

Yes, it still appears to perform the hot-restart prevention routine...it just does it a little differently.

 

[GeoffCee]

Yes, it still appears to perform the hot-restart prevention routine...it just does it a little differently.

I can't remember now where I heard this, it may have been on SpyderLovers or chatting to a mech at my dealer's place, but in simple terms (the kind I understand best ) after the 2011-7 fix the throttle bodies do not fully close but instead a small gap is left which apparently fixes the sticking problem.

Problem is, I don't know what the throttle body mechanism at the root of the throttle problem actually looks like, so it's impossible for me to imagine what the 2011-7 software adjustment does to the engine in a physical sense. It's a case where a diagram or photograph would useful to illustrate both the problem and the fix. In the absence of that there is only that whining noise on shut-down for me to fixate on and to wonder if it is quieter than it used to be, and if it is quieter what does that mean exactly? Is it as it should be, or not?

I'm thinking that the RT should come packaged with a complimentary set of BRP worry beads! ray: :roflblack:

 

[Tonga]

Hot restart

My 2010 RT has always been a problem restarting when hot. The tech guy told me the 2011 had that fixed, guess they are still working on it. It is annoying when it happens to my 2010 and anyone close must wonder what's wrong! No fix for the 2010's

 

[JohnS_Rosamond]

My parents 2011 RT-S went about 300 miles and then wouldn't run anymore. After having the Limp home mode cleared, it would run almost 80 miles and then go into limp home mode again. It was the throttle body assembly. After seeing that there was a TSB, I told them to call right the dealer right away. If this was a software originating problem, the new throttle body might be ruined (again) by the old software. This seems to be the case. They got the software update and now (though they should not notice any major difference) the new throttle body should be safe from harm.

 

[Mr. White]

Thanks again, Scotty. I am taking BR1 to the dealer next Friday for -7 -8 and -9 if they have the parking brake parts. I have not experienced hot/hard starting and have never heard the "noise" after shutdown. I rode today and it was 101 when I got home...no noise other than the fan running a minute after shutdown...BR1 ran like a hose... :roflblack:

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[NancysToy]

Thanks again, Scotty. I am taking BR1 to the dealer next Friday for -7 -8 and -9 if they have the parking brake parts. I have not experienced hot/hard starting and have never heard the "noise" after shutdown. I rode today and it was 101 when I got home...no noise other than the fan running a minute after shutdown...BR1 ran like a hose... :roflblack:

:spyder2:

The sound is hard for me to hear, too. I thought others were kidding, until I took the body panels off and heard mine for the first time. We have heard to many loud noises in our many decades, my friend. Our ears aren't what they used to be.

 

[Mr. White]

The sound is hard for me to hear, too. I thought others were kidding, until I took the body panels off and heard mine for the first time. We have heard to many loud noises in our many decades, my friend. Our ears aren't what they used to be.

Oh, if the whine is that low, I would not hear it. I guess too many hours in a C-46 cargo plane during and after the Korean War. They were not pressurized and the only thing between me and the engines was a very thin piece of aluminum...ha ha

Oh, I know, Scotty. I will crank up my hearing aids and maybe I will hear it....maybe it is better that I don't hear it....:roflblack:

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[NancysToy]

Oh, if the whine is that low, I would not hear it. I guess too many hours in a C-46 cargo plane during and after the Korean War. They were not pressurized and the only thing between me and the engines was a very thin piece of aluminum...ha ha

Oh, I know, Scotty. I will crank up my hearing aids and maybe I will hear it....maybe it is better that I don't hear it....:roflblack:

:spyder2:

For me it was the open headers of the dragsters, working the starting line at the races, and too darned many loud bikes in my life. I flew sailplanes, so they were nice and quiet. At least we have better stories about how we lost our hearing than thise kids playiong that loud music. :joke:

 

[thehawk]

Uh-oh ...

... mine was many hours in the RB-47 and the ECM position of B-52's and I can hear mine fine! Should I be really worried?

PS, Big Red 1, I thought of you yesterday as I rolled by the turnoff on I-35. Then, at a wedding today, someone told me about an Italian restaurant across from the Catholic church that has meals to die for))

thehawk

 

[Mr. White]

... mine was many hours in the RB-47 and the ECM position of B-52's and I can hear mine fine! Should I be really worried?

PS, Big Red 1, I thought of you yesterday as I rolled by the turnoff on I-35. Then, at a wedding today, someone told me about an Italian restaurant across from the Catholic church that has meals to die for))

thehawk

Hawk, are you speaking of the Catholic church on main street Boerne? The Bristo is across the street. Great place....

My group, the Hill Country Road Riders, mostly retired amd many retired military went to the Fredericksburg Airport Cafe yesterday...good place and good ride...crowded with the $200 hamburger pilot bunch (used to be $100, but with avgas at $7 a gallon no more $100 hamburgers... :roflblack:

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[thehawk]

Yep...

... that must be the place. One of these days I'll check it out, thanks!!

 

[GeoffCee]

Our ears aren't what they used to be.

I've noticed my collection of 33 rpm vinyl LP's have mysteriously become less scratchy over the last 20 years or so. I used to turn the treble down for my most worn albums but my ears have adjusted so that I no longer need to. :roflblack:

 

[liketoride2]

Scotty,

Is there no solution for the hot start problem with the 2010 RT models? Thanks.

Mike

 

[NancysToy]

Scotty,

Is there no solution for the hot start problem with the 2010 RT models? Thanks.

Mike

None yet that I am aware of, or my dealer is aware of. The work-around routine goes as follows:

1. If the Spyder doesn't start right away when hot, crack the throttle slightly and try again a time or two;
2. If it still doesn't start, hold the throttle wide open (WOT) and crank a few times to clear the cylinders...the Spyder will not start at WOT;
3. Try again with the throttle fully closed;
4. If it is a no go, crack the throttle and try again.

I never had to go beyond step #4, even when I killed a spark plug.

 

[cougar]

None yet that I am aware of, or my dealer is aware of. The work-around routine goes as follows:

1. If the Spyder doesn't start right away when hot, crack the throttle slightly and try again a time or two;
2. If it still doesn't start, hold the throttle wide open (WOT) and crank a few times to clear the cylinders...the Spyder will not start at WOT;
3. Try again with the throttle fully closed;
4. If it is a no go, crack the throttle and try again.

I never had to go beyond step #4, even when I killed a spark plug.

Step 5. Leave the key in it and catch a cab home.