• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

Throttle Body Caput - Vidal Junction, Ca.

Illinois Boy said:
Were these TB's ever replaced previously?

I have a 2011 and had the TB replaced. Just want to know if I am facing another round of this problem.

Thanks...
Click to expand...

I think it depends on when yours was replaced. Brp made a couple of significant changes to the computer control of he TB and the last change pretty much solved the problems. Unfortunately I don't remember what that occurred; maybe someone else does. I got my '11 in May and had a TB failure shortly thereafter. Later that year, or maybe even the next, I had another failure and the fix that time took care of it. I traded it in Jan for the 14 with 32K.
 
Just may be ?

Having coffee and one of my buds came by. We were discussing the incident and he said bad fuel. I said, but it happned the moment it was cranked. Meaning, a fresh load of fuel should not have caused a problem on start up. As compared to a few minutes later. It would have needed time to suck some of the new suff in. Right? Then, it made sense. Maybe? Perhaps the previous tank full was contaminated, and, since it was being consumed -by the spyder being in perpetual motion since the previous fill up - all was OK. But, once I had stopped, and the fuel level from the previous fill up was low enough -if contaminated- it allowed the pump to get a big gulp of bad stuff as soon as it was cranked. Thus, causing the check engine warning.

Anyway.....sounds very logical...actually quite possible. Considering no codes and the problem going away.

This is me. Thinking out loud and sharing without fear of intimidation.

If, the above is true. It truly was worth sharing.

Never, but never.....say die.
 
Last edited:
All good

SpyderAnn01 said:
Did you make it home without any further problems?
Click to expand...

We did Ann. Thanks for asking. Hit some desert showers. Cindy and I stayed dry on our spyders. While Dave, on his trike, said he got soaked. Score two points for the spyder. :doorag:

Was nice to see the two of you. Looking forward to the next time. Stay safe.
 
If you still want to chase it, looking on BUDS may reveal the code history. The bad gas theory sounds plausible, although it could have also been another type of glitch.
 
Jerbear said:
Having coffee and one of my buds came by. We were discussing the incident and he said bad fuel. I said, but it happned the moment it was cranked. Meaning, a fresh load of fuel should not have caused a problem on start up. As compared to a few minutes later. It would have needed time to suck some of the new suff in. Right? Then, it made sense. Maybe? Perhaps the previous tank full was contaminated, and, since it was being consumed -by the spyder being in perpetual motion since the previous fill up - all was OK. But, once I had stopped, and the fuel level from the previous fill up was low enough -if contaminated- it allowed the pump to get a big gulp of bad stuff as soon as it was cranked. Thus, causing the check engine warning.

Anyway.....sounds very logical...actually quite possible. Considering no codes and the problem going away.

This is me. Thinking out loud and sharing without fear of intimidation.

If, the above is true. It truly was worth sharing.

Never, but never.....say die.
Click to expand...

When checking plane fuel for contamination, we use a drip-cup to extract fuel from the bottom of the tank. If there is water in the fuel, it will show-up at the bottom of the tank -- therefore it will be in our drip-cup.

So, it makes sense the fuel could have been contaminated given your progression of events.

Will be interesting to see if you have any other problems... Hopefully never again.
 
Glad to hear you made it home fine!
I saw the rain over the mountains and thought about you guys riding back today. I hear some got quite a bit of rain coming over the tejon pass. I take it you went through Joshua tree?

Bob
 
finless said:
Glad to hear you made it home fine!
I saw the rain over the mountains and thought about you guys riding back today. I hear some got quite a bit of rain coming over the tejon pass. I take it you went through Joshua tree?

Bob
Click to expand...

East of J tree - 95,62,177, to I10 and home. It got a we bit wet out but like you said, based on weather reports. The folks that went Victorville way most likely got it bad. Bummer!
 
Exchanging ideas....it's all good

Illinois Boy said:
My WAG is "Operator Error"! :roflblack:

There is not a code for Jerbear-operation; Good One :roflblack::thumbup:

so my guess cannot be discounted yet, since there is not proof I am wrong!:D

I certainly do hope it isn't something as simple as the brake sensor needing attention. Not sure how many miles on your machine, but if it is dirty, worn-out, or has developed some sort of slack causing it to send a signal of the brake being applied... it could cause this.

Good point.

I watch for such things when night riding on rough roads. A bouncing brake pedal that results in illumination of the brake light is easily seen in the mirrors when night riding.



Remember... we are in WAG-mode here... since you said it was okay to do. I just thought I would lob-out a couple WAGs while the time passes.:thumbup:

You are welcome to WAG away here.:roflblack:

All in all, I seriously hope you get this figured-out so you can get on your way and enjoy the ride... Good luck to you! :thumbup:
Click to expand...

Thanks :thumbup::doorag:
 
Can' wait

jthornton said:
Jerry,

Glad to hear you made it back. I received your order this morning when I woke up and your Air Filter Kit will ship out today!

JT
Click to expand...

Thanks for the made it back. I'm looking forward to removing all the plastic under the hood. Tho a battle it may be I'm conviced it'll be worth every swear word :thumbup: :roflblack:
 
Finishing a thought

Jerbear said:
Having coffee and one of my buds cameitby. We were discussing the incident and he said bad fuel. I said, but it happned the moment it was cranked. Meaning, a fresh load of fuel should not have caused a problem on start up. As compared to a few minutes later. It would have needed time to suck some of the new suff in. Right? Then, it made sense. Maybe? Perhaps the previous tank full was contaminated, and, since it was being consumed -by the spyder being in perpetual motion since the previous fill up - all was OK. But, once I had stopped, and the fuel level from the previous fill up was low enough -if contaminated- it allowed the pump to get a big gulp of bad stuff as soon as it was cranked. Thus, causing the check engine warning.

Anyway.....sounds very logical...actually quite possible. Considering no codes and the problem going away.

This is me. Thinking out loud and sharing without fear of intimidation.

If, the above is true. It truly was worth sharing.

Never, but never.....say die.
Click to expand...

Something I left out.

The spyder recognized a fault on start up. In this instance I chose to ride 21 miles with a known fault condition( no codes - but check engine warning). If, it was a bad fuel condition and it cleared while riding that distance. The spyders software would not know it had cleared....until the spyder did a new systems check on restart. Which is exactally what happened.
 
Jerbear said:
Thanks for the made it back. I'm looking forward to removing all the plastic under the hood. Tho a battle it may be I'm conviced it'll be worth every swear word :thumbup: :roflblack:
Click to expand...

So when is the wrenching party?
I will come help/participate if you like!

Bob
 
I don't think so. No bowls on injectors... the only fuel remaining in the system is what is in the lines.



Jerbear said:
Having coffee and one of my buds came by. We were discussing the incident and he said bad fuel. I said, but it happned the moment it was cranked. Meaning, a fresh load of fuel should not have caused a problem on start up. As compared to a few minutes later. It would have needed time to suck some of the new suff in. Right? Then, it made sense. Maybe? Perhaps the previous tank full was contaminated, and, since it was being consumed -by the spyder being in perpetual motion since the previous fill up - all was OK. But, once I had stopped, and the fuel level from the previous fill up was low enough -if contaminated- it allowed the pump to get a big gulp of bad stuff as soon as it was cranked. Thus, causing the check engine warning.

Anyway.....sounds very logical...actually quite possible. Considering no codes and the problem going away.

This is me. Thinking out loud and sharing without fear of intimidation.

If, the above is true. It truly was worth sharing.

Never, but never.....say die.
Click to expand...
 
finless said:
So when is the wrenching party?
I will come help/participate if you like!

Bob
Click to expand...

Jerbear said:
PM sent
Click to expand...

Did I hear the word party?:yes:, so after reading this whole thread it appears it's not the TB, (thought you were referring to me), but maybe bad gas. I had that happen to me when I was up in Hollister at Corbin. So embarrassing not knowing what was happening, and that I might get stuck, but after I got through that tank, there were no more issues. My symptoms were erratic idle behavior, that I posted in this thread http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?25126-Symptoms-of-eratic-idle-behavior

Hope everything rides well for you here on out :thumbup:


TB aka TicketBait
 
All is well....for now

TicketBait said:
Did I hear the word party?:yes:, so after reading this whole thread it appears it's not the TB, (thought you were referring to me), but maybe bad gas. I had that happen to me when I was up in Hollister at Corbin. So embarrassing not knowing what was happening, and that I might get stuck, but after I got through that tank, there were no more issues. My symptoms were erratic idle behavior, that I posted in this thread http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?25126-Symptoms-of-eratic-idle-behavior

Hope everything rides well for you here on out :thumbup:


TB aka TicketBait
Click to expand...

Other TB...;)

Sounds similar that's for sure. Just stocked up on ◇Gas-X◇ 'formulated especially for spyders' :roflblack:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top