What the police do here in mexifornia (if they have the time to make the stop) is issue a fix-ticket and send you to a certified auto repair station to have the bulbs verified. Something I saw just the other day was a car with a blue headlight and a white headlight. They didn't seem overly bright but they sure as hell caught your attention.
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What the police do here in mexifornia (if they have the time to make the stop) is issue a fix-ticket and send you to a certified auto repair station to have the bulbs verified. Something I saw just the other day was a car with a blue headlight and a white headlight. They didn't seem overly bright but they sure as hell caught your attention.
Actually, I wish there was universal enforcement. I sure get tired of being blinded by oncoming vehicles (usually jacked up trucks) blinding me with their low beams!
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
Actually pick-ups don't have to be " jacked up " to cause issue .... I have yet to see a pick-up whose headlights arn't ...TWO FEET HIGHER than a cars.... that's the real problem..... also folks whose headlights arn't properly aimed .... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:
bigbadbrucie
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Don’t forget all the passenger cars and their so called driving lights....both of these should be called BLINDING LIGHTS!
Although there might be something about brightness, the real issue is mentioned in that video from Headlight Revolution. The source of light (the LED emitters) might not be in the same place as the incandescent filament. That is going to put the source out of the focal point of the reflector, yielding unknown results in the light pattern on the road. Usually, it causes a LOT of glare for oncoming drivers.
Keep in mind that you can be blinded by the STOCK lights, too, if they are not adjusted properly.
The stock DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) on my van use the high beam lights, but at a lower intensity. Since they come on when the key is turned on, and remain on until the headlights are turned on, the only way I can prevent that is to run with my regular low beams and marker lights all the time. Sorry, but that's not going to happen.
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cravenfun
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I pulled out the LED headlights that were in my used purchased F3 and put in HID's. LED had junk high beams and weak low beams, brand unknown.
H4 kit is a little more involved but I'm a gearhead so no issues for me. I've been using HID in my snowmobiles for 10 yrs now and no issues.
I've tried LED's and none of them work properly in a filament bulb style housing like a filament HID bulb.
Vehicle fleet is HID converted also.
I'm a nut on proper aiming so save the flames.
H4 kit is a little more involved but I'm a gearhead so no issues for me. I've been using HID in my snowmobiles for 10 yrs now and no issues.
I've tried LED's and none of them work properly in a filament bulb style housing like a filament HID bulb.
Vehicle fleet is HID converted also.
I'm a nut on proper aiming so save the flames.
I think this thread is about finding the right LED solution, with the understanding that many factors are in play and just swapping in a cheap LED bulb for a halogen isn't necessarily going to work.
HID is an old, expensive technology with its own technical issues, such as delay in the response time, high amperage draw, different reflector requirements and so on. It's not the direction that advancements in lighting are going, I believe.
HID is an old, expensive technology with its own technical issues, such as delay in the response time, high amperage draw, different reflector requirements and so on. It's not the direction that advancements in lighting are going, I believe.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
:agree: ....and that's one of the reasons I posted my experience with the " Fahren " brand.... Mine are 16,000 Lumens ( Fahren makes others that are brighter ) & even with iffy Night Vision I think they are great ..... JMHO ./... good luck .... Mike :thumbup:
Go by Fahren's replacement guide. You'll need to know the OEM bulb designator e.g. 9005/HB3
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
You didn't " Reply With Quote " .... but if the question was for me ... I did this on my 2014 RT .... I think they said it wouldn't fit mine either ... but obviously it did ..... I don't think " Fahren " even knows Spyders exist. .... The company deals with mostly auto's .... To the best of my knowledge ALL 9005 / HB-3 bulbs / LED's have the same BASE .... good luck ... Mike :thumbup:
thanks, still trying to get the hang of proper thread process!
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
No problem, when I joined in 2012 I didn't know how to even talk on a forum .... I was using all caps and got immediately spanked by a few folks here :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
This clip echos some of the issues I found. I investigated many many brands/types and tried a few brands of LED but none did the job. Even some of those recommended as suited to Spyders don't really do that much better.
Some things I learnt
When I spoke with Lexus (my car is a Lexus) they said "LED's have been around a long time now and the headlights in your 2012 IS were designed to accommodate them, if your Bike doesn't the manufacturer needs a kick on the derriere"
We in Aus have our low beams where US/Canada have their fog lights (either side of the Frunk). I wish I had the testicular fortitude to bake a headlight from an RTL and see if I can fit different internals like these guys at HR have..
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1. I did get a better outcome for my High beams from PIA, with some bulbs that had a 5deg title on the filaments, this was an improvement on the OEM candles my RTL had.
2. I dont care what technology I use, I just want better illumination at the front, not the underside of overhead bridges, or so short I can spit further, or so narrow I have to walk the roadside to make sure no furry critters are there ready to run into me.
Some things I learnt
- Some drivers simply wont fit inside the sealed plastic housing
- Some bulbs incorporated the driver and sink, fitted ok (JW Speaker)
- I wondered about the impact of a sealed plastic housing would have on the ability for a heat sink or fan to really cool what it needed to cool
- I was lucky that my car has the same bulbs as the '17RTL so I could swap. It came down to the manufacture of the reflector that determined how effective the LEDs were.
- Corresponding with some manufacturers (Phillips, PIA, JW Speaker, OSRAM) was helpful - they were honest enough to say don't use our product on your RTL
- That when a bulb was tested in my '17RTL, no matter how bad the result was, when fitted to my Car the LED gave s%^t loads of light, and both are Projector type housings with plastic encased surrounds.
When I spoke with Lexus (my car is a Lexus) they said "LED's have been around a long time now and the headlights in your 2012 IS were designed to accommodate them, if your Bike doesn't the manufacturer needs a kick on the derriere"
We in Aus have our low beams where US/Canada have their fog lights (either side of the Frunk). I wish I had the testicular fortitude to bake a headlight from an RTL and see if I can fit different internals like these guys at HR have..
Late edit -
1. I did get a better outcome for my High beams from PIA, with some bulbs that had a 5deg title on the filaments, this was an improvement on the OEM candles my RTL had.
2. I dont care what technology I use, I just want better illumination at the front, not the underside of overhead bridges, or so short I can spit further, or so narrow I have to walk the roadside to make sure no furry critters are there ready to run into me.
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Frostbyte
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I haven't gotten around to converting my headlights to LED yet, but I added a set of Pencil Beam Driving Lights on custom mounts I fabricated, switched and wired up to my High Beams through a relay. I do a lot of night riding in the country so lighting is important and these have done wonders for me.
https://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/-Long-Range-Optimus-LED-Auxiliary-light-Round_p_10.html
https://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/-Long-Range-Optimus-LED-Auxiliary-light-Round_p_10.html
SportsterDoc
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I had this in my Triumph and now in my Yamaha Bolt
https://www.amazon.com/AUXITO-Motorcycle-Headlight-Conversion-Specially/dp/B07T4H4FR3
I have these in my Nissan Frontier
https://www.amazon.com/AUXITO-Headlight-HB5-Headlights-Conversion/dp/B09TT597F1
If 9005 is needed, consider these
https://www.amazon.com/AUXITO-9005-...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Very bright, never had an on-coming vehicle flash their lights, as the pattern is excellent.
https://www.amazon.com/AUXITO-Motorcycle-Headlight-Conversion-Specially/dp/B07T4H4FR3
I have these in my Nissan Frontier
https://www.amazon.com/AUXITO-Headlight-HB5-Headlights-Conversion/dp/B09TT597F1
If 9005 is needed, consider these
https://www.amazon.com/AUXITO-9005-...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Very bright, never had an on-coming vehicle flash their lights, as the pattern is excellent.
With respect to the original post on this thread, I note the 9005 bulb has the recommended chip pattern and the recommended fan, but the driver is built into the base and cannot be used as daylight running lights. So, not recommended for motorcycle use apparently.
cravenfun
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Automotive daytime running headlights lights run on 1/2 or reduced power. That's why they say no DRL use as running on low voltage will hurt them.
On cycles the headlights are on at full power all the time so they should be fine.
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