I don't know what it is about the new model year that brings out so much uninformed speculation. Just the nature of the beast I suppose. Eventually, the sideways rumors will give way to fact and the situation will resolve itself.
Unfortunatly, the product (in this case the new Spyder line) may take an undeserved beating in the interim.
Thats True Scotty But the ST is 160 pounds heavier and 6 HP less than the GS/RS so I think its evident the RS is still the performance vehicle of the Musclecraft division.
In fact, If the figures and Not printed wrong the 2013 RS is 100 (798 vs 698) Pounds heavier than the Old GS/RS??
Whats up with that???:dontknow:
Logical, and on paper I would tend to agree with you. Heavier (if that is in fact true) with less HP usually means a slower vehicle. But not always. Since most of us have not had the chance to ride the 2013's, paper is all we have to go on, except for the opinion of those who have ridden them.
The key here is that there is more to locomotion than horse power & weight when comparing old Spyder to new Spyder. Torque and power band also come into play. Those that have ridden the 2013's say they go better. Time will tell.
You can read into that what you want but I've never been left behind by an RS on my RT pulling a trailer. Ask Spyderpops or BajaRon if the extra weight and less hp more torque is a factor. I've ridden thousands of miles with both those guys.
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I have ridden with Lamont for many miles. Started with the Valkyrie, then the M109R and now my RS and him on his RT (usually pulling a trailer). I have never had to wait for him whether it's off the line or in the mountain twisties. I actually think that in some conditions that trailer gives him an advantage.
Nearly everyone would like more power, but Lamont seems to be able to get his RT to go just fine. And he is very happy with the power of the new Spyders.
No disrespect Lamont but,,,,
Most people on this forum think that going over 5,000 rpm is crazy so it shouldn't be too hard to keep up with them.
(Revised) Ok, re-reading this I see where you're coming from. Still there are many Spyder riders that don't mind getting with the program and running the RPM up. I don't think Lamont was talking about keeping up with slow riders. But I apologize for mis-reading this the 1st time. My response was not appropriate.
I've ridden with a number of Spyderlovers who are pretty good. SpyderPops, Doc, Seth-O and others (All RS riders). I don't consider myself 'Easy to keep up with', but even if I were, these other guys are not. And Lamont on his RT has no trouble keeping up. As a matter of fact, it's more like the other way around. :yikes:
You can't tell us that a new machine with 100 -160 lbs of extra weight is going to perform better than our now retro 106 hp beasts that BRP used to manufacture.
Well, of course he can, and I'm thinking he did or we would not be having the conversation. Here is my perspective.
When Lamont came back from his test riding week he told me that the new Spyder line was very impressive with a lot of real world improvements. Lamont has ridden a lot of bikes and he has a great amount of background to measure things by. Why else would BRP want his imput? (They sure didn't ask me!)
Lamont isn't a RAH-RAH kind of guy. When he gets excited about something, it means something. Now it's just his opinion and yours may vary. But his opinion is a very good starting point. Believe me, if Lamont didn't like what BRP was doing with the Spyder he would
NOT be pumping it up. And I am very serious when I say this. It isn't like I met Lamont yesteday and I can tell you he's never changed his story to make someone happy.
So keep the speculation and good questions coming. But don't call it till you've ridden it.
Lamont's ridden it, he likes it, and he says the new Spyders have good power. I'm not saying you should take his word for it, just that you might want to ride one
BEFORE you say he's wrong.
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