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The 10 Most Reliable Motorcycle Companies

I really liked the paint on the Ness Magnum. I didnt have intentions of adding the highway bars and tour pack, but I just cant leave anything stock. Had to make it my own. More storage is always good and the tour pack can be removed in less that 30 seconds.

Hahaha......thought that might be the case.....the Magnums have some great colour schemes.
 
My RT has had some problems but all were quickly fixed by my dealer at no cost to me and I love riding my Spyder.

I will say, every Yamaha/Star motorcycle I ever owned (RD400, XS500, VStar 1300T) were absolutely bullet proof, as was the one Suzuki (Boulevard 800).

I've also owned a Kawasaki 125 and a Royal Enfield Military that had more problems than my Spyder.
 
True, but as a buying guide for today not so much.

Oh really? I see problems reported here on new Spyders as well. The horror stories are out there and they are they same stories for the most part. Spyders are complex, I understand that, but if BRP would immediately without question take care of each and every complaint and make sure the dealers had properly trained mechanics, most of the issues would be overlooked. If BRP doesn't take drastic measures (I don't think they will) then the Spyder will be at the bottom of the list when a new survey is taken a few years from now.
 
Hi wyliec,

Re: Can't always start off at numero uno.

While my memory is not pefect, I do believe that Lexus, after one year of being on the market, was #1 in reliability & customer satisfaction.

PS) Again, I say that if BRP would let the independent mechanics have the parts at the same discount as their dealers, I think we would have less of the JerBer type of experiences. End of rant.

Lexus is Toyota - it isn't a new company, just new models from a very well established company under a different brand. No question about it, BRP has had issues, but the models keep getting better. The Spyder is just ten years old, and it's new kind of beast.

I would be very curious to see how the new models only compare (2014 forward). I had major issues with my 2010 RT, but my 2014 has been far more reliable with relatively few issues in 41K miles. I imagine that they would continue to rise in reliability.

That said, I strongly agree that they should have a program for independent shops to do warranty work and have full parts access.
 
Well, I am glad for the information, but like everything on the internet I take it with a dose of salt. I'm on my second Spyder. The first being a premiere edition 08 GS, which other than some heat issues and burning a little oil was trouble free. And, now a 2014 RT with the 1330 engine. That bike, knock on wood, has been trouble free too with almost 35k miles on it so far.

Like was brought up too BMW also had a run of major troubles in those particular survey years too. They now have an all new (since 2013) pretty much everything on the "R" bikes, it would be interesting to see what they've done in terms of QC. That was supposed to be a major point focus on their new models, publicly recognizing their errors, which is very rare in this world of lawyers.

It's also interesting that Kawasaki did as well as it did, since the KLR, their best selling model, had huge mechanical issues in 2008 and 2009. And, continues to have a major design flaw in the engine that has existed it's entire production run and has never been truly addressed.
 
Dependability

Same rider/owner.

2011 RT S SE5 with 30K - Numerous problems starting before 5K & we're not talking light bulbs, brakes or tires.

2014 Yamaha FJR with 25K - zero issues

2016 Indian Chieftain with 13K - zero issues

2013 KTM 990 SMT - zero issues - sold

You be the judge.
 
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Same rider/owner.

2011 RT S SE5 with 30K - Numerous problems starting before 5K & we're not talking light bulbs, brakes or tires.

2014 Yamaha FJR with 25K - zero issues

2016 Indian Chieftain with 13K - zero issues

You be the judge.


I get rid of the RT, and save some money.

Identify what you have control over and find peace with what you don't.

Jerbear,

Quick story. Someone on here purchased a 2010 RT new, when first out, and when he had a problem with it, BRP gave him a new one. This person was the guru of Spyders, and very high strung; not sure if one relates to the other. If you want, I'll pass you his screen name; he's not been on in awhile because he got upset with some on here, and I happen to be one of those. He may give you some insight that may help with dealing with BRP to your satisfaction. I believe it was just that BRP had taken notice of him because of his knowledge, and didn't want to piss him off.
 
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Coming from you - I get it. Compliment intended.

I get rid of the RT, and save some money.

The question really comes down to how much I'm willing to spend protecting the total dollars invested.

It would be a major loss. Even if, it were a stock purchase gone bad. At least there, a guy can have stops in place.
 
The question really comes down to how much I'm willing to spend protecting the total dollars invested.

It would be a major loss. Even if, it were a stock purchase gone bad. At least there, a guy can have stops in place.

I just added to my original post. I'm sorry, I didn't notice yours.
 
Thanks

I get rid of the RT, and save some money.

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Jerbear,

Quick story. Someone on here purchased a 2010 RT new, when first out, and when he had a problem with it, BRP gave him a new one. This person was the guru of Spyders, and very high strung; not sure if one relates to the other. If you want, I'll pass you his screen name; he's not been on in awhile because he got upset with some on here, and I happen to be one of those. He may give you some insight that may help with dealing with BRP to your satisfaction. I believe it was just that BRP had taken notice of him because of his knowledge, and didn't want to piss him off.

I'm relatively certain I know whom you speak of, and I wasn't one of his favorites either.:roflblack:

In fact, while he had a mechanical sense that bordered on all knowing. It often got in the way of his ability to be practical, when called for.

Thanks bud, appreciate the thought.

Jer
 
hey bscrive

hanniganmotorsports.com converts 1800 goldwings into reverse trikes.I rode one at datona this year.
 
I agree that the development of the BRP products may not be the best but, Harleys are every bit as bad. They have problems that date back decades. Harley has made changes almost every year and in many cases, still doesn't have them resolved. In spite of that and for reasons I don't pretend to understand, people continue to blindly buy them just because they are Harleys. Spyders aren't that bad once you get the teething problems resolved.
 
Same rider/owner.

2011 RT S SE5 with 30K - Numerous problems starting before 5K & we're not talking light bulbs, brakes or tires.

2014 Yamaha FJR with 25K - zero issues

2016 Indian Chieftain with 13K - zero issues

2013 KTM 990 SMT - zero issues - sold

You be the judge.

Again, I am not trying to be abrasive or abrupt, but if the others are so good and you are so unhappy, why not divest yourself from the product? I would have if I were you. It is beginning to sound like you just want to make everyone else miserable as well. For cracking ice live is too short to be miserable. When you continue nagging about it to everyone else, through the thought, then typing it you doubly reinforce the negative thought in your own mind, and make yourself even worse. Give up the ship, sell it and buy yourself a little piece of heaven from the other guys.

Joe
 
I enjoy riding my Spyder but all the moans & groans here have planted seeds of reliability doubt in my mind. So much so that when I go out I wonder if I will make it back
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I do all my own maintenance, so am reasonably sure the bike is sound.

I really wish the heavy moaners would take a very long holiday from the forum.
 
Have my bikes been perfect? No!
Does that ruin the experience for me? Hell no! :D

But I am starting to wonder why you're kicking BRP at every opportunity.
If they fix your bike: sell it, and go get something that makes you happy.
You owe that to yourself! nojoke
Have to agree with Bob on this. You need happiness in your life, there must be some other machine out there that can make you feel better about life! How about a newer Spyder with the new drive train? Hope you find peace! Hey at least they were not 11th!:yes:
 
Yes, after 20 years of investment Victory fell pray to Indian's seemingly overnight success. Not an easy decision for corporate I'm sure, but one that made sense with thorough examination of the score card.
Interesting, that the highest rank Indian could have is 11, behind the "worst motorcycle ever made":roflblack:
 
Reliability

I enjoy riding my Spyder but all the moans & groans here have planted seeds of reliability doubt in my mind. So much so that when I go out I wonder if I will make it back
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I do all my own maintenance, so am reasonably sure the bike is sound.

I really wish the heavy moaners would take a very long holiday from the forum.


If your Spyder hasn't given you a reason for concern.

You shouldn't be anymore concerned about it having problems than you would any other bike.

Ride it, and enjoy yourself.

That's what you got it for.

Remember.
 
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