• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

Thats it..... !! That's all the 'upgrades' bring!?

I like the new dash,but was I the only one who looked for a new and improved turn signal switch when they showed the picture of the joy switch?
 
So on the F3 video with the yellow F3 on their facebook page it says "Sport Mode" right by the rear tire. Creative marketing verbage or will it actually have a sport mode that modifies the nanny? :hun: Corvette has it, Ducati has it, along with a bunch of others.
 
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The gauge cluster is nice for sure.......well, the features sound nice anyway but why not offer it on all models? It doesn't have to be standard but should at least be an option for every model.

I don't thin its realistic to think that someone that buys a base model F3 wouldn't want the option of having the new gauges.
Maybe because they're getting ready to drop the F3 & F3S next year? Maybe they need to use up a 2 year supply of the older F3 clusters!
 
They're not going to give any specifics on a future model, because they want to see you buy something now! :D
That's just how the business World operates: they didn't invent the tactic... :dontknow:
Ford did something like this in 2004. That was the last year of the 2nd. generation Lightning. It was rumored that in 2006 they would do a SVT version called the Adenalin. Partially because of this, the local dealers couldn't sell any, and discounted their $31k truck to $25k. On top of that, they did 2 year leases on them because no one wanted to buy one if something was coming out better in 2 years.
But, the joke was on us, the Adenalin ended up being a sport trac with some graphics and not much else. Then much later SVT brought out the Raptor which has nothing to do with a 2 wheeled drive sport truck.
I wish BRP luck, but there is nothing new on the 2018 that gets my motor running, but to each their own. As for a $10k spyder, we can only hope.
 
if an instrument cluster is about all they can come up with then they have think tank issues! maybe by the time the 2028 models come out they will incorporate shaft drive to actually make these machines smooth. not that I could ever afford one anywho. I do like the new blue. reminds me of the old DuPont ice blue lacquer from about 45 years ago.
 
Well to me it seems like the Spyder line is not very profitable for BRP, and why would they continue to invest money in a product that doesn't sell well. This is why there are less and less changes each year. I drove across the country on vacation and saw only about three Spyders on the road the whole trip compared to seeing thousands of motorcycles. I love Can-Am Spyders but I think their time is coming to an end.
 
Well to me it seems like the Spyder line is not very profitable for BRP, and why would they continue to invest money in a product that doesn't sell well. This is why there are less and less changes each year. I drove across the country on vacation and saw only about three Spyders on the road the whole trip compared to seeing thousands of motorcycles. I love Can-Am Spyders but I think their time is coming to an end.

If a division of BRP doesn't make bank they do cut them off. That's what they did with jet boats. I don't know. I feel like I'm seeing more and more Spyders when I go for rides now. Mostly RT's though.

Is the issue people aren't interested in the Spyder or is the problem BRP isn't giving them something to be interested in. To drop that kind of cash BRP has to provide me with a product I want.....really want. Last few years they have not been doing that.
 
I like my 2008 just fine. That is because BRP hasn't come out with anything besides the ST that draws my attention. I've set up my GS like an ST.. so why change? Therein lies the challenge that BRP has to overcome. All these years of RT and now the F3 and nothing revolutionary about the 2018 design, just more of the same. If I wanted the same bike year after year with nothing but color changes or added chrome, I'd have bought a Harley.
 
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I guess brp have two markets - people who already have a spyder, and potential buyers.

Seems the main thought here is "they aren't doing enough for us" - the people who already own one.

Personally I don't want untested changes just for the sake of change ... Or a brand new model every year - an unrealistic expectation imo.

The investment in an entry model is an investment in the future, reaching new owners, and strengthening the brand. As I've said elsewhere, we all win in this scenario.

Economies of scale will tip in at some point - again, a win.

Re the comment that an entry model will reduce our resale values - really?? Or have you thought that people who start on the entry model may move on to our resales?

We all have our wish list - and we all have different things on that list ! I am happy that brp is progressing the brand and aiming at new owners - meantime also introducing modern integrated gauge cluster - quite a win I would have thought.
 

I wait every year, and lately it is only getting worse. No joke here, I am going to have to buy used or a hold over to find anything worth owning. By the way, My RS-S is the only spyder my 15 year old daughter will get on. She, and all of her friends think the other models are ugly, or grandma machines. That is why the market is cooling off. Now the F3 is only taking away from RT sales.

I guess brp have two markets - people who already have a spyder, and potential buyers.

Seems the main thought here is "they aren't doing enough for us" - the people who already own one.

Personally I don't want untested changes just for the sake of change ... Or a brand new model every year - an unrealistic expectation imo.

The investment in an entry model is an investment in the future, reaching new owners, and strengthening the brand. As I've said elsewhere, we all win in this scenario.

Economies of scale will tip in at some point - again, a win.

Re the comment that an entry model will reduce our resale values - really?? Or have you thought that people who start on the entry model may move on to our resales?

We all have our wish list - and we all have different things on that list ! I am happy that brp is progressing the brand and aiming at new owners - meantime also introducing modern integrated gauge cluster - quite a win I would have thought.

:crackpipe:Aiming at new owners with $20,000 and $30,000 machines??? Or releasing your entry model at the end of the riding season??? BRP is just as out of touch as they have always been, and until there is some competition, they will continue to do whatever they want.

Just sayin'.............
 
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$10,000 entry level Spyder - not sure where you got your numbers from

Riding season? Wouldn't know, we ride all year
 
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Whenever Apple comes out with a new mobile device they usually include a new operating system BUT that same system can also be downloaded onto older devices unless the hardware cannot support it. It would be nice if the new dash can be installed on older models. In daylight the present dash pretty much sucks and it would be sweet to magnify. But spending $25K+ for a dashboard, or gold rims? I don't think so.
 
I wait every year, and lately it is only getting worse. No joke here, I am going to have to buy used or a hold over to find anything worth owning.

Same here Otter28169. I won't buy used so that leaves a holdover. I just hate to buy a bike that's a 2 year holdover and then have BRP release something I want 6-12 months later. Who knew I'd want to spend money but there wouldn't be a Spyder worth buying :) I'd go back to 2 wheels before I bought any of the current line-up.

 
Whenever Apple comes out with a new mobile device they usually include a new operating system BUT that same system can also be downloaded onto older devices unless the hardware cannot support it. It would be nice if the new dash can be installed on older models. In daylight the present dash pretty much sucks and it would be sweet to magnify. But spending $25K+ for a dashboard, or gold rims? I don't think so.
I would bet that the new screen won't be able to cure the issue of glare; nothing can!
Backward compatibility has never been BRP's strongest suit... :banghead:
But that would reduce sales of the "latest and greatest", so I'm not sure if it would make sense for them to pursue it.
 
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