Texas shootout

[AY4B]

Before this thread gets axed, ill post links to support what I said. These were Human beings for whom Christ died. What are we becoming when we look down on someone because they ride a different motorcycle? Some of the clubs there were vets and christian ministries.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015...erge-calling-waco-shootout-a-police-massacre/
http://www.agingrebel.com/12873

 

[Gray Ghost]

All of the bikers that were killed were shot by police

The media in this area are reporting that who shot who is not determined yet. Takes time to run the autopsies and link back to weapons.
"How many bikers may have died from police gunfire is not yet known. Citing a law enforcement source, CNN reported that four of the dead bikers were shot by police.

But at a news briefing Monday evening, Swanton said that information "has not been verified by us, it has not been verified by autopsies or medical results as well."
"The autopsies have not been completed and that information may very likely be incorrect," Swanton said. "It is not coming from me or the Waco Police Department."
Investigators plan to finish collecting evidence at the crime scene Tuesday morning, he added."

 

[AY4B]

The media in this area are reporting that who shot who is not determined yet. Takes time to run the autopsies and link back to weapons.
"How many bikers may have died from police gunfire is not yet known. Citing a law enforcement source, CNN reported that four of the dead bikers were shot by police.

But at a news briefing Monday evening, Swanton said that information "has not been verified by us, it has not been verified by autopsies or medical results as well."
"The autopsies have not been completed and that information may very likely be incorrect," Swanton said. "It is not coming from me or the Waco Police Department."
Investigators plan to finish collecting evidence at the crime scene Tuesday morning, he added."

Sorry but I do not always believe everything that is said in the media. Where are the videos of the incident? You will never see one.

 

[Gray Ghost]

Sorry but I do not always believe everything that is said in the media. Where are the videos of the incident? You will never see one.

You haven't seen video of the incident and don't believe the media. So what is the source of your information that the police shot all the dead?

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree:...And what is the source of this information? :dontknow:

 

[Bob Denman]

So what did they do to deserve being slaughtered because they were having a knife fight?

:shocked::hun:
Wow...

 

[Dan McNally]

Rumor Has It That This Is What Started It All

Unverified photo from right before the fight started . . .

 

[Bob Denman]

:yikes: :roflblack: :clap:

 

[Orange Spyder Man]

All of the bikers that were killed were shot by police

I'll bet no group will demonstrate or burn in Waco because of these cop shootings... heck .. after all .. they are just bikers..

osm

 

[wyliec]

This from 3 minutes ago, as of 9:09 A.M.:
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/05/waco_shooting_bikers_flee_gun.html

I don't think anyone, who wasn't there, knows what actually happened. I find it a little strange when someone is judge, jury, and executioner, and accuses another of profiling (like I was).

 

[AY4B]

You haven't seen video of the incident and don't believe the media. So what is the source of your information that the police shot all the dead?

I already gave the source in an earlier post with 2 links. They give the names and ages of the dead, the names of all the MC 's and what actually happened.

 

[AY4B]

Before this thread gets axed, ill post links to support what I said. These were Human beings for whom Christ died. What are we becoming when we look down on someone because they ride a different motorcycle? Some of the clubs there were vets and christian ministries.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015...erge-calling-waco-shootout-a-police-massacre/
http://www.agingrebel.com/12873

The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.

 

[AY4B]

This video explains the history of the feud between the Bandidos and the Cossacks, and explains also that the Cossacks are not an outlaw club but have actually people in all walks of life as members including law enforcement. My guess is that the fight started in the bathroom between an embeded LEO and a Banndido.
https://youtu.be/hXx3tjJ7dMg

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: There is an awful lot of "supposition", in your guesses...
Why not let the forensic experts take a run at; rather than quote folks who may either:
1. not know what they saw...
or
2. have their own agenda in mind...

 

[mowin]

. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons..

So, some scum bags pulled a gun and the cops defused the situation. I'd say they did a good job....

 

[Cruzr Joe]

If the cops stood by and did nothing everyone would be on their case for not doing their job. I think the cops probably saved more lives than they took, even if all 9 were shot by the police, in the initial reports it was mentioned that the police returned fire after being shot at as they encountered the M/G gangs. I was not there and don't even pretend to know what happened but until it is verified, i will take the stand that the police were at least there for a good reason.


Cruzr Joe

 

[Bob Denman]

As I said: let the experts look over the evidence...

Look what happened the last time folks starting "jumping the gun"... :banghead:

 

[ARtraveler]

I am also of the opinion that the "who shot John" discussions should wait until forensic evidence is brought forth.

The upside, is that no innocent bystanders were involved in the frackus.

Other information (sadly-from the internet) states that over 320 weapons were confiscated. This included guns, knives, chains with attached padlocks, and brass knuckles. People came to the meeting prepared to defend themselves or to start something. An incident just waiting to happen. Gang culture dictates that you will defend your gang and your members to the death. It appears they were ready and willing to do just that.

Not as bad, but similar to the gang fight that happened in Las Vegas a few years back. I believe there were also some deaths in that one.

 

[Orange Spyder Man]

let me say this... coming back from the Biloxi Blow Out about 8 years ago.. one of the bikers in our group had a flat on his bike.. 3 Banditos were the only people that stopped to help... they knew a small shop owner than came out (late sunday evening) we took off the rear rim/tire ... and went to the small shop and replaced the tire with a serviceable tire... they charged $75.00 for the tire .. NO LABOR..
so all Banditos are not all criminals.. so the folks that stand on their soap boxes and judge... don't judge a book by its cover !!!

osm

 

[scottnkansas]

If the cops stood by and did nothing everyone would be on their case for not doing their job. I think the cops probably saved more lives than they took, even if all 9 were shot by the police, in the initial reports it was mentioned that the police returned fire after being shot at as they encountered the M/G gangs. I was not there and don't even pretend to know what happened but until it is verified, i will take the stand that the police were at least there for a good reason.


Cruzr Joe

I'm with Joe on this one. It seems as if the police are damned if the do something and damned if they don't. I don't think wearing that badge is an easy job.


Scott