TELL ME AGAIN ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING ???

[jwulf74]

So, did we go overboard with the 51 things we can do to help global cooling?:roflblack:

On the Prius note, I love them....every time I passed on in the GTO it made me feel good inside.hyea: but the wife wanted an Avalanche and we needed the garage space for the Spyders...:shemademe_smilie:

 

[SNOOPY]

I think good old Al Gore should take a look outside and then
explain global warming again :hun:.... yea right burr it's even cold in
California as far as California weather goes.

I heard a statistic today that it is mostly younger people who believe this whole global warming bullcrap, so I think you are pretty safe on this forum. :thumbup:



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[retread]

If you back check, a large number of the same "scientists" that are talking global whatever were talking "ice age" 40 years ago. They just follow the money.

john

 

[SNOOPY]

It was 'Global Cooling' in the 70's. That didn't pan out so it was 'Global Warming' in the 90's.

That has been going south in a big hurry, so the prognosticators (needing some pending catastrophe to preserve the revenue flow) have finally landed on the term that can be applied no matter which way it goes.

Global Climate Change is now the 'Doom-Dujour'.

I love you more and more every day, don't tell anybody. :roflblack:



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[rick_w]

I love you more and more every day, don't tell anybody. :roflblack:



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20 Year Low Temps here in NE Ohio Tonight.

 

[Ronbo]

Global Warming...

I think good old Al Gore should take a look outside and then
explain global warming again :hun:.... yea right burr it's even cold in
California as far as California weather goes.

Amen!!! The science and reality do not support the global warming theory

ronbo

 

[Bootie]

Climate Change

Show me your definitive facts to prove your statement about the cause of climate change. We already know the earth has been warming... tell us something we do not know. What is causing it? What are the facts to that?

If you would please...

Uh...exactly where did I give the cause of Climate Change? I don't remember writing anything about the cause. I did say that Climate Change is happening and you agreed. My main point is that you need to sample enough data so that you can make an intelligent statement about the problem. The original post implied, on the basis of the present cold snap, that Climate Change was a figment of Al Gore's imagination.

 

[mwkess]

Cause

Now I think I know the cause of global warming.

 

[Bootie]

Climate Change

Show me your definitive facts to prove your statement about the cause of climate change. We already know the earth has been warming... tell us something we do not know. What is causing it? What are the facts to that?

If you would please...

Check out this video. It pretty much puts the Climate Change arguments to rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ

 

[jScotD]

OK

 

[SNOOPY]

That was freaking awesome! :roflblack:



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[Ed's Red Spyder]

The Video is Bullsh_t!

Check out this video. It pretty much puts the Climate Change arguments to rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ

After watching the video, his doom column was all Bullsh_t!, warming temps and increase co2 would mean more crops not dust bowls.
And remember "climate-gate:shocked: in England, Mann's fake hockey stick, and the past 15 years of no warming trends, just a flat line in temp.

 

[Ed's Red Spyder]

LOVE IT!

 

[Dan_Ashley]

I taught statistics at the University of California, Riverside. I also taught several subjects in the MBA program. These are my observations on global warming.
1. The climate models used do not include the influence of clouds.
2. Climate scientists don't know how to model clouds. They think that maybe cloud formations are determined by cosmic ray flux. ( No joke.)
3. The margin of error for climate projections exceed the mean temperature growth by tens of degrees.
4. Termites make more greenhouse gasses worldwide than all of mankind's activities combined.
5. The use of statistics used to prove global warming is done in a completely unacceptable manner. Many errors in the development of the statistics exist. For example, here is just one: you can't take averages of numbers that are already averages.
6. They cannot explain why there has been no global warming in the last 17 years or so.
7. Just because observations seem to occur together, does not mean that one causes another. (Did you know that kids with bigger feet do better on IQ tests? That doesn't mean that big feet are a determinate of intelligence. Kids all take IQ tests at about the same time at school. They are not all the same age. Older kids do better on IQ tests, and have bigger feet).
8. The polar bear dying stories were completely fabricated.
9. The head researcher for Global Warming on theUN team had investments in a company which would profit from global warming laws. I do not remember if it was alternative energy or what industry though.
10. The primary data used by global warming adherents was destroyed. You have to use data that has been massaged, because the original data was destroyed--apparently by staffers who may have been employed by the College of East Anglia.
11. One of the reasons climate models predict similar outcomes is that they are all based on a single algorithm...which itself has not been tested.

edit: oh, by the way, the data for arctic ice only goes back to 1959... That's when the first satellite photos were taken. Moreover, there appears to be a magma pool heating the ground under the Greenland ice sheet--but I'm unsure of this last one.

 

[Ronbo]

global cooling

I don't think one year makes a trend. It is warmer here than the lower 48. Summers have been trending warmer and the polar ice and glaciers are melting at a record pace. Some say the warming trend is causing the weird weather. Bigger tornados, hurricanes, wider spread storm fronts. Not a scientist here--but not willing to throw in the towel on global warming either. JMHO.[/QUOT3
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I respect your opinion,especially yourwealthof knowledge about syders,but I don't buy global warming. Makes for a nice conversation though
ronbo

 

[GeoffCee]

The UK Meteorological Office has just announced that the UK this week "celebrates" a full 21 year trend of cooling temperatures. In the past the Green Lobby used to refer to it as "Global Warming" but now they call it "Climate Change".

The new name is a good strategy -- particularly as the Mediterranean Climate they were promising us 20 years ago disappointingly did not arrive. Personally, my priority was not to begin growing grapes but to enjoy a longer riding season on board my Spyder. Was it too much to expect?

 

[flybuddy]

Trying to discuss "facts" that are slanted and spun to support either contention will get you nowhere. This is simply another divisive political stance to support income redistribution while lining political pockets. Those that are running the carbon scheme get to set up their own stock market for carbon credits. Of course some of the huge profits made in brokering and speculating on these credits will filter back to supporting politicians to keep it going and expand it.
So the key question is--if there really is GW, will the carbon scam really do any good? Would it actually reduce usage and would that have any real effect on our climate? We've all seen the stats on natural sources of carbon. Would we simply be better off to try and improve our climate through science rather than political nonsense?

 

[Lamonster]

Looks like we one :firstplace:

 

[SNOOPY]

I'd move :tooCold:

 

[den1953]

Antarctic Ozone Hole

The ozone hole, unlike global warming is very real and probably has everything to do with the summertime advance of sea ice around Antarctica. Those CFCs that were banned here are still being used in China and much of the developing nations of the world. The effects even if they were globally banned will take centuries to reverse themselves. The ozone layer acts as a protective blanket that not only stops harmful incoming radiation, but also traps outgoing radiation which is infrared or heat radiation. The North Pole is also in jeopardy of losing it's ozone cap, but the global warming people are letting this information fall through the cracks. Ice Age anyone??