SWAY BAR & BRP

[Questions]

I have a question concerning Bajaron's sway bar. Please don't get me wrong. I have ordered and received Bajaron's sway bar for my 2012 Spyder RT and I'm waiting for warmer weather here in Ma. to install it. My question is with all this hype over the enhanced performance this bar gives to all the Spyders, why hasn't BRP taken the hint and upgraded their original bar to that which more closely matches that bar by Bajaron's bar design.?? They say that the 2013 models have a different suspension. Was a larger sway bar incorporated in their new suspension...?? It seems to me that this larger bar (reading all the reviews) makes a world of difference and BRP would want to jump on the bandwagon to make a great roadster even better. Again, I give thanks to Bajaron with his sway bar, putting smiles on all us Spyder riders.......!!!

 

[Chupaca]

They did...!,

I think you answered you own question. The 2013's have a modified suspension and the bar is beefier. BRP will always go for the happy medium so there may still be room for improvement according to customers ryding styles. We will have to wait and really see how well the changes are. Not many out there much less with a lot of miles. As for yours and mine and the like you can't do better than BajaRon's bar...:thumbup:

 

[NancysToy]

There is nothing to suggest that the 2013 swaybear is either heavier or lighter. The 2013 suspension and suspension mounts are quite dramatically changed. The suspension geometry is very different from the earlier models, and the stresses on the swaybar may not be anywhere near the same. BRP's engineers have designed the sway bars as they have felt appropriate. Just like with many cars, that may not suit those interested in high performance, but will be perfectly adequate for the majority of owners. If there is a need for more with the 2013s, the aftermarket will likely come to the rescue.

 

[pro10is]

The question you ask is an excellent one. There are many anti-sway bar upgrades in the automotive market as well. So you have to ponder why would manufacturers engineer a sub-par anti-sway bar into their vehicles when it so adversely affects the best potential handling. Making a better OEM anti-sway bar would not add much if any cost unlike other high performance components such as shocks. So why wouldn't they engineer the best performing anti-sway bar into the vehicle to begin with?

Other than the slight increase in cost I can only think of a couple reasons. Perhaps it was their opinion that the OEM design was in fact the best overall. This is difficult to believe since aftermarket sway bars appear to perform significantly better. Perhaps there could be trade offs we're not fully considering such as increased stress on the frame and other components. Perhaps they did not want people pushing the cornering ability of their vehicles to the maximum limits.

Whatever the reason BRP has not apparently changed their anti-sway bars even though they've had much feedback and many opportunities (although many other improvements were made with the 2013 redesign). Unless someone can provide expert insight I guess we'll never know exactly why.

 

[Dizneyman]

IMHO
The thing that everyone calls "handling" is not any one set of characteristics any more than one single component or set of geometries can be termed "ideal".
It's a balancing act and trade offs exist.
Different road surfaces require the suspension to do different things in different ways.
Much of what is called handling is purely subjective and can't be reduced to a simple quantifiable number like 0-60 times.

What I call superb handling probably would make others cringe.

Well said... better to one person, may not be to another...

 

[NancysToy]

IMHO
The thing that everyone calls "handling" is not any one set of characteristics any more than one single component or set of geometries can be termed "ideal".
It's a balancing act and trade offs exist.
Different road surfaces require the suspension to do different things in different ways.
Much of what is called handling is purely subjective and can't be reduced to a simple quantifiable number like 0-60 times.

What I call superb handling probably would make others cringe.

Well said! :agree: OEM swaybars are only "substandard" in the eyes of certain owners. They are perfectly acceptable to the majority.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WHY ? ? ? ?

I don't have an answer for you......But I'm still trying to figure out the logic as to why the air valve on the rear wheel is on the wrong side....................PS mine isn't because I moved it a long time ago :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :2excited:....Mike