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ST-L heat problems and my concerns

Spyders are built in Quebec, Canada, but there is a test facilty in Arizona, among other places.

Tons of manufacturers test vehicles in AZ. They usually travel in a group with sensors and a variety of attachments and stand out like crazy. I see the same three Spyders around me and their only attachments are either a drink or a phone. I live a mile from the Chandler border and work in Chandler and have never seen or heard of such a test facility. Not challenging the acuracy of your claim, just saying I've never seen anything resembling a Spyder test vehicle. I barely run into any other Spyders at all, unless I'm up north where it's far cooler.:dontknow:
 
Tons of manufacturers test vehicles in AZ. They usually travel in a group with sensors and a variety of attachments and stand out like crazy. I see the same three Spyders around me and their only attachments are either a drink or a phone. I live a mile from the Chandler border and work in Chandler and have never seen or heard of such a test facility. Not challenging the acuracy of your claim, just saying I've never seen anything resembling a Spyder test vehicle. I barely run into any other Spyders at all, unless I'm up north where it's far cooler.:dontknow:

Guess no one knows when they test there.

Keep your camera handy. :thumbup:

Ya never know what you might see.

 
how to solve heat issues?

just bought my spyder in may a 2012 rt from what I have read here and experienced I believe the only solution is to ceramic coat the headers,cat ,and fuel tank. I was able to wrap the left side pipe about 70% and replaced the cat with bypass pipe and this has helped a lot .if I was able to wrap the back pipe by gas tank I think I'd be a happy camper
 
Melted master brake cylinder

2600 on mine when the brake cylinder melted. 1400 on another ST I know of. 800 on a 2013 RT.

Then there's at least 2 more on the forums here (don't know mileage.)

It goes usually after a long trip. Outside temp doesn't seem to matter (mine was around 80F when it went. Previous day was 98F for 500 miles.)

When it goes, it sprays a little fluid on the exhaust which creates white smoke from the right side which smells sweet (like... burning brake fluid) eventually resulting in the Brake Failure message on the LCD and if you persist at mashing the brake pedal it'll reward you by soaking your boot in brake fluid. Yummy.

If you drive like this it'll splatter all over painted plastic pieces which will eat your paint, dissolve rubber and other nastiness. The good news is brake fluid LOVES water. Just dump some water on it and it'll wash off rather magically. Do it right away, before it eats something.

I don't know that this is related to the other heat issues. I can't see how. Under plastic air temps would have to be really extreme, like 600F+, I just can't see that being possible. It might simply be that they put the plastic bits too close to the exhaust elbow (it's about 2" away maybe?) and the plastic was purchased from the lowest bidder.

I have NO idea how in the hell this made it past testing and into production. It happens with low mileage without any special kind of riding other than longish rides. Do they not tour these things in testing?

BRP will be contacting people who have this problem to ask questions "soon". They will also be sending out something to "fix" it. They wouldn't give me more details until after their "special team" has a chance to interview more owners.

I haven't heard of anyone actually having problems stopping. I had zero brake fluid and the rear brake operated fine and I even made a panic stop and it was quite quick with just the rear brake. These Brembos on the 2013s are amazing.

But if you have a 2013, please be careful.

(Sorry to hijack the heat problems thread. I think that is also a legitimate issue that needs some addressing.)


The first time the ST started smoking we were unloading the Spyder off of the trailer. We had just gotten home from the Owner's Event. We had not been riding the Spyder that day. The next day we were going to go for a ride and when we pressed on the brake to start the engine it began smoking again and gave us a brake failure light. That is when we trailered the Spyder to the dealership.
I don't know at what point we had gotten the Spyder over heated?
 
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