ST-L heat problems and my concerns

[SpyderAnn01]

I'm not sure a remedy is absolutely necessary, since the boiling fuel may be more of a worry and an inconvenience than a real danger, but there are some things that can reduce the possibility. Filling the tank more often, and not running it too low is one of these. Tou don't need to see a low fuel warning before you fuel up. Reducing heat inside a fairing or underneath the tank by wrapping or coating the exhaust, changing the tuning (not likely with a Spyder), rerouting the pipes, or venting that area are typical approaches. Insulating the tank can also help to some extent. Just like extraordinary measures that must be taken to operate vehicles in extreme cold, extreme heat can sometimes require the same kind of home remedies. JMHO

Scotty, I never had the boiling fuel when I fueled when the low fuel warning light was on it only happened when I topped off with around a half a tank of gas remaining. When the tank was empty there was no hissing when I opened the cap again only when there was half a tank left.

 

[NancysToy]

Scotty, I never had the boiling fuel when I fueled when the low fuel warning light was on it only happened when I topped off with around a half a tank of gas remaining. When the tank was empty there was no hissing when I opened the cap again only when there was half a tank left.

I have only had it the other way...ambient temps over 105 and a third tank or less. On the other motorcycles I have that have done it, it is almost always at a low level...near reserve. Less gas...easier to heat I guess. Strange that yours is happening more often around a half tank. To me that would indicate that the heating is probably coming from the sides more than the bottom...possibly building up along the tank flange. It would be interesting to use some temperature probes to compare under-body temperatures of the 2013s and the earlier models, in a few key places.

 

[hotglue]

I can lend him some cuss words if it will help.

Scotty... I bet I know most of them....:thumbup: but always open to learn...LOL Wrapping the pipes on the bike will expand your vocabulary.... and cut up your hands....:shemademe_smilie:

 

[NancysToy]

Scotty... I bet I know most of them....:thumbup: but always open to learn...LOL Wrapping the pipes on the bike will expand your vocabulary.... and cut up your hands....:shemademe_smilie:

Yeah, but the loss of blood will eventually lower your blood pressure...LOL. :gaah:

 

[hotglue]

Yeah, but the loss of blood will eventually lower your blood pressure...LOL. :gaah:

LOL my blood pressure stays in the 'normal' range.... I don't usually get stressed.... but I have been told that I am a carrier....:dontknow:

 

[mrfats]

Scotty...I was traveling so 55+++++ to 75mph...fill-up about 3 or 4 bars left in tank....constant travel for 8+ hours...would happen about 2 fillup and then continue...Mark will fix it.....but very annoying when you spend this $$$$$

Just wondering if you checked with Len to see what his take is on your heat situation...

 

[Sny]

@Sny, my bike was only reading four bars but the temp gauge read 106. Not sure if us southern riders may need larger cooling system since gets so hot here. My RS never did this and an it in 100 plus weather almost daily in stop and go traffic. Last night road about 120 miles and no problem. Highest reading was four bars and 93 degrees on numerical reading.

106 is the air temp.

4 bars is your engine temp, which is peachy.

It means your cooling system is working great.

You said you got a High Engine Temp orange message on the LCD? Definitely take it to the dealer. 4 bars is not "high engine temp" so that message doesn't mean what we think it means.

There could be other temp sensors tripping the message, which could be effected by the high ambient temps.

 

[cjackg]

I still think an explosion-proof bilge fan might be an answer....

Interesting term there.... Care to elaborate?

I am considering experimenting with a fan on my RT and sure dont want to blunder into worse problem!

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Interesting term there.... Care to elaborate?

I am considering experimenting with a fan on my RT and sure dont want to blunder into worse problem!

Someone here already did this experiment and it turned out a miserable failure. Not sure what to search for, but you might not want to start where he did. No point in duplicating the same experiment. Otherwise, it's a great idea. Just sayin'


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[flamingobabe]

106 is the air temp.

4 bars is your engine temp, which is peachy.

It means your cooling system is working great.

You said you got a High Engine Temp orange message on the LCD? Definitely take it to the dealer. 4 bars is not "high engine temp" so that message doesn't mean what we think it means.

There could be other temp sensors tripping the message, which could be effected by the high ambient temps.

my air temp is reading about 10 degrees higher than what the banks etc... are posting...I find this interesting...don't know what it means

 

[Zenagirl]

Heat problems

I have Spyderpops heat guard...and the wrap and heat sheild Mark purchased is that Lave stuff....we will try this and see what happens....Mark cut a whole in the bottom of splashpan to make changing oil easier...might have to remove completely...he'll post more

I'm looking forward to hearing what you find out Flamingobabe because as you know, several of us gals on GOS are having these heat issues as well, our legs are even getting burned, and this just should NOT be happening. And I don't have someone to help me deal with things like this, and going to the dealer each time for them to do it is going to be expensive.... :sour: Now, I'm going to start watching for extra heat near the handlebars (haven't noticed any yet) and boiling gas, although I haven't noticed my gas cap getting especially hot either. So glad you posted this here.

 

[rcturner]

Interesting term there.... Care to elaborate?

An an explosion-proof bilge fan is a boat part that is designed not to explode when the engine compartment is super heating due to engine shutdown or slow forward speed.

 

[NancysToy]

Interesting term there.... Care to elaborate?

I am considering experimenting with a fan on my RT and sure dont want to blunder into worse problem!

A bilge fan is designed to evacuate the closed area of a boat, below the deck. This can entrap gasoline fumes, and become a flammable atmosphere. The bilge fan gets rid of any collected fumes. The motor and fan within the closed space need to be explosion-proof to prevent them from causing a spark that could potentially ignite a flammable atmosphere. Another approach uses a standard fan mounted outside the bilge, to pump air in.

 

[hotglue]

Scotty.... please send a glossary of words I can use while installing wrap on FB's Pipes this weekend.... I will be taking donations of bandaids as well.... Yep done this before.....:shemademe_smilie:

 

[FaranH]

Scotty.... please send a glossary of words I can use while installing wrap on FB's Pipes this weekend.... I will be taking donations of bandaids as well.... Yep done this before.....:shemademe_smilie:

Since my girls recently informed me that "CRAP" was a bad word nojoke, I've been forced to be creative. I'll bet you've never yelled "SNAP" or "CRUD" or "DARN" really loudly after banging your hand or stubbing your toe or shattering a whole glass jar of honey on the kitchen floor.


Yeah, me neither. :banghead: But I'm working on it!

Good luck, HG!

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Scotty.... please send a glossary of words I can use while installing wrap on FB's Pipes this weekend.... I will be taking donations of bandaids as well.... Yep done this before.....:shemademe_smilie:

Just lube up with a tube of Neosporin + as you tackle the pipes. That way, you can push the med right in deep with the slices. It'll begin the healing process faster and you can save a step too. The choice of words are completely up to you...


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[hotglue]

I have some doggie antibiotic I got from the vet.... it works WONDERS compared to what they sell for humans,.....nojoke

 

[hotglue]

Since my girls recently informed me that "CRAP" was a bad word nojoke, I've been forced to be creative. I'll bet you've never yelled "SNAP" or "CRUD" or "DARN" really loudly after banging your hand or stubbing your toe or shattering a whole glass jar of honey on the kitchen floor.


Yeah, me neither. :banghead: But I'm working on it!

Good luck, HG!

I'll ad those to the repertoire..... sometimes when I really hurt myself... I can't think of anything to say...

 

[GadgetGuy442]

I wonder what percentage of people having these high heat problems have non-stock seats, body panels (bumpskid), heat panels, etc? Is it possible that the engineered airflow on the stock models is easily influenced by some of these mods in unanticipated ways? Changing the airflow could port heat into areas very differently than the BRP engineers experienced when developing the product.

Just a notion, for what it's worth.

I dunno......

Bill

 

[boborgera]

Since my girls recently informed me that "CRAP" was a bad word nojoke, I've been forced to be creative. I'll bet you've never yelled "SNAP" or "CRUD" or "DARN" really loudly after banging your hand or stubbing your toe or shattering a whole glass jar of honey on the kitchen floor.

Sometimes you have to Swear, Because poopie paints and meanie head just doesn't cut it