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Spyder stage 2 tune
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Welcome to the forum Gunner. There are some here that have the stage II up grade and everyone that has gotten it seems to like it. I'm sure some will speak and let you know what they like the most and maybe not like. Some have also gotten the stage I up grade. While you wait for replies you can do a search of the forum for past discussion by using the search box at the top right side of the page.
Jetfixer
Well-known member
I've done the Stage 1 tune on the 2015 RTL I used to own and the 2020 RTL I currently own. It was well worth it for the performance upgrade. I commute on my Spyder daily and ride the mountain twisties a lot. The greatly improved throttle response works very well when needing to do traffic avoidance maneuvers, and in the hills too! Can be hard on the rear tire, though. Keep in mind that if you upgrade, you pretty much HAVE to use premium fuel only, and the Stage 2 absolutely requires it.
Thanks for your reply’s I’m convinced, I’m going forward with the stage 2. I’m planning on using Monsterfuelinjection, who did yours? Did you also do the cat delete? If so I’ve seen different ones advertised some without a baffle, some with and some with a removable baffle. I’ve also heard some say they bought the Pedal Commander to go along with the stage 2. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Deputy Dog
New member
Had the stage 2 done late last spring, couldn't be happier. The difference in performance is night and day, would do it again in a heart beat. I also used Monsterfuelinjection, fast and dependable service. Yes you will have to use premium fuel and you may want to open up your exhaust for best performance. I added a K&N filter, and Two Brothers exhaust with cat delete and no baffles.
ButterSmooth
New member
Is this all 'feel and sound' or has someone dyno tested the upgrades?
308gunner
Member
I have the Stage II....combined with the pedal commander...its a blast..I have a RLS cat delete with no baffle so the tune can breathe..you will love the tune.
troop
Well-known member
Although I don't have a ECU flash, I do have a DynoJet Power Vision 3 with a custom map. It is more than "feel and sound". Air/fuel ratio's and timing are all optimized. The machine not only has better performance, I also get better mpg's. That said, dyno maps are hard to come by with Spyders, as they're just not dyno friendly for fitment
RayBJ
Well-known member
Although I don't have a ECU flash, I do have a DynoJet Power Vision 3 with a custom map.
I'm considering going down this path. How do you determine which tune file to use from the several listed on the PV3 site? Or did you create your own?
troop
Well-known member
The program will pick your map based upon the stock tune you load. I bought my PV3 from FuelMoto USA (sale on now). Being only 100 miles away, I rode up there and they data logged/built my tune.
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/
Actually, the speedo goes up to 220 KILOMETRES per hour, and you'll probably find you can't get too much over 100-110 mph even with an awfully looong road on a stock tune AND the throttle bodies are programmed to start easing things off and slowing your rate of acceleration beyond about that 6000 rpm range anyway!! :sour:
But if you get your ECU upgraded & the throttle body limits eased in the process, 220 Kph/140-ish Mph is quite achievable.... (& btw, the digital speedo does read beyond that!
) BUT, at least for me anyway, achieving the ultimate top speed every time I ryde isn't really the point - it's the ultimate fun & enjoyment I get to have all the rest of the time & in all the rest of my ryding - and the ECU Upgrade has made that Sooo much greater!! :thumbup:Since it got it's ECU Upgrade, my 2013 RTL now has MUCH BETTER than JUST 'decent pick-up', and it's no slouch in any conditions you are likely to encounter on the road during your 'normal' &/or daily ryding, even if it might lose out juuuust a little during Speed Week out on the salt flats!!
And besides, it's fairly heavy by comparison to most bikes and it's got this vast slab of air it hasta push ahead of it, so once that sorta stuff really starts coming into play as things get closer to triple digit miles per hour, anything with those features will find it hasta work a little harder - altho not much can keep up with me until then, even fewer can out brake me, and for the majority, I'm just a set of rapidly disappearing tailights ahead of them, especially in the twisties with lotsa shorter straights!! 
hyea: And all this has been achieved within the 'reliability & reasonable longevity' output limits used by this very same powerplant in some of its other applications, where they manage to perform at that level for an awfully long time - they come to us fairly significantly de-tuned & restrained direct from the factory, and an ECU Upgrade can release some if not all of the potential output that those other applications get without overly stressing things or significantly shortening its potential life, altho it still can't protect you from everything &/or provide an iron-clad guarantee - there's just too much scope for the vagaries of life to step in. :dontknow:
Go on, DO IT!! You know you want to!
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