spyderCodes
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well, the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is .....
but once the condition has been remedied the code will automatically be cleared and archived with no other action needed.
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Spyder reliability (long term)
- Thread starter Ken Kovas
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well, the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is .....
but once the condition has been remedied the code will automatically be cleared and archived with no other action needed.
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ES44AC
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I do wish that All manufacturers would step in when a lemon shows up rather than ignore it. It would GREATLY improve the manufacturers reputation.
We had a Honda HRV and I don't usually complain that much, but the one we had was a P.O.S for sure. The dealership ignored as many problems that they could get by with. I usually keep a car or truck 8-10 years, but the HRV lasted a year. I bought my wife a Toyota Camry....
We had a Honda HRV and I don't usually complain that much, but the one we had was a P.O.S for sure. The dealership ignored as many problems that they could get by with. I usually keep a car or truck 8-10 years, but the HRV lasted a year. I bought my wife a Toyota Camry....
Ken Kovas
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Just as a follow up, I replaced the Throttle Body hoses and started using Seafoam on a regular basis and that cleared up the injector issue. It does appear that many of the issues were indeed caused by the new mechanic at the dealer. When I did a oil change I discovered that the mechanic had stripped one of the bolts on the oil filter cover and I had to repair that. I have since started using a different dealer and the issues have greatly dropped, more to what I would expect of a vehicle like this. What I have taken away from this is that you have to vet the mechanic carefully and if he doesn't pass muster go elsewhere. I will never deal with this dealer again as he told me that the new mechanic was indeed qualified but I discovered, after talking to him, that his only previous experiance prior to this, was doing small engine repair. A huge jump from working on these machines.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Seeing your earlier reply about what your dealer "told you" and now what you are finding out for real, it does seem that they passed off a "bill of goods" to you. And looking forward, it seems you have covered some of the issues very well. That 2011 I mentioned earlier was finally traded off in 2019 on a new F3L. It had 45,000 trouble free miles on it. :bowdown:
Except for throwing a code, you haven't really enumerated the problems you've experienced with it, so it's difficult to say whether or not you have a lemon.
What a horrible experience you have had. To answer your original question, I don't think your experience with Spyders is typical. It's hard to say whether you got a lemon or a really bad dealer, but it's one or the other I think.
safecracker
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Ken Kovas, thanks for sticking with it and posting what you have done and how the Spyder is running now. I have a 2011 RTS and i have 81,000 miles on my 998. I have a few issues during warrenty. None left me stranded. I have not had to replace the 2 vacuum lines yet, I guess my hose came from a good batch. As mentioned above, cleaning the throttle body once a year is a good idea. It is a pain in the arse to get the complete airbox out. On your 2012 you have 4 grease fittings on each A-arm. I remove the "Frunk" to grease these. I personally like the V-Twin motor over the 1330. It does require more maintenance. Good luck. Bruce
south GA Farm Boy
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I am on my third Spyder, and reliability is a problem that I worry about! So far, I have either sold them before the warranty run out, or taken the extended warranty. My dealer's shop charges are $128 dollars an hour, so I can't afford to ride without a warranty!
I still feel that BRP needs to work on quality especially electronics, since my 2018 has had the control module on the left side replaced twice and the right handlebar module replaced once! At my age trying to live on retirement makes it hard to own a Spyder. I owned several Harleys, and never had a major problem, and I know Harley is on it's way down , and hopefully Spyders are on their way up! When you are listed as 10th on a scale of 10 on reliability, then you can start working your way up, so BRP, start your quality control people working on this problem! To all new new possible Spyder owners, it is a great ride and you will love it, we need BRP to get their act together, and go from last place at least to 4th or 5th! Some people ride them 100,00 miles without a problem,
but that has not been my case! So good luck and enjoy your new Spyder!
I still feel that BRP needs to work on quality especially electronics, since my 2018 has had the control module on the left side replaced twice and the right handlebar module replaced once! At my age trying to live on retirement makes it hard to own a Spyder. I owned several Harleys, and never had a major problem, and I know Harley is on it's way down , and hopefully Spyders are on their way up! When you are listed as 10th on a scale of 10 on reliability, then you can start working your way up, so BRP, start your quality control people working on this problem! To all new new possible Spyder owners, it is a great ride and you will love it, we need BRP to get their act together, and go from last place at least to 4th or 5th! Some people ride them 100,00 miles without a problem,
but that has not been my case! So good luck and enjoy your new Spyder!
Could you tell us where you are getting your comparative reliability ratings? Thanks.
Rednaxs60
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Have been following this thread as I am a new Spyder owner, less than 3 weeks - 2014 RT LE. Bought with 9100 Kms on the clock and have put some 2K Kms on it since. Have an '85 Honda Goldwing Limited Edition fuel injected model as well. Mechanically, these bikes will cross Canada and tour the US with no difficulty. What is relevant is the electrical/electronics. We have no control over if and/or when something will happen. The Spyder is a complicated electrical/electronic machine as is my '85 Honda Goldwing. My Honda Goldwing has a travel computer that has a trip and fuel management system. I can change between KPH and MPH. I can hit a button and the dash changes to display the oil pressure and temperature instead of the fuel and engine temperature. The ECU, travel computer, and dash are all interrelated and rely on signals from each. The ECU monitors the computerized fuel injection (CFI) system and has an internal diagnostic system that, when a faulty signal is encountered, displays an error code on the ECU. There are faults in the CFI system that will stop the engine such that it will not restart.
Fast forward to owning a Spyder, complexity yes, and just as daunting. Have owned a Honda 1500 and 1800 Goldwing, just as electrically/electronically challenging considering that a lot of shops will not work on older machines. The electrics and electronics of the Spyder are the only items that I cannot control, and as such, don't worry about this. Hopefully if something happens and I cannot correct the issue, the dealer will be able to do so without my having to mortgage the farm so to speak. The more we expect the manufacturer to deliver, the more issues we may encounter.
A used vehicle of any description will always be a crap shoot. I have a friend who only buys new and sells before the warranty is up. He admits he is mechanically and electrically challenged, and because of this, buys/sells accordingly. My local dealer mentioned that he has a client that trades in his Spyder every two years religiously for this very reason.
If a used, out of warranty Spyder keeps you awake at night and is affecting your enjoyment, time to change up the paradigm.
Good Luck. Cheers
Fast forward to owning a Spyder, complexity yes, and just as daunting. Have owned a Honda 1500 and 1800 Goldwing, just as electrically/electronically challenging considering that a lot of shops will not work on older machines. The electrics and electronics of the Spyder are the only items that I cannot control, and as such, don't worry about this. Hopefully if something happens and I cannot correct the issue, the dealer will be able to do so without my having to mortgage the farm so to speak. The more we expect the manufacturer to deliver, the more issues we may encounter.
A used vehicle of any description will always be a crap shoot. I have a friend who only buys new and sells before the warranty is up. He admits he is mechanically and electrically challenged, and because of this, buys/sells accordingly. My local dealer mentioned that he has a client that trades in his Spyder every two years religiously for this very reason.
If a used, out of warranty Spyder keeps you awake at night and is affecting your enjoyment, time to change up the paradigm.
Good Luck. Cheers
Rednaxs60
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Further to my last, good to read that issues have been taken care of and getting less. My brother has been a mechanic for years, and has discussions with the newer breed. Manufacturers have set diagnostic requirements that require the following of a set of guidelines - no deviation, and the repair is generally repair by replacement. If the R by R does not work at a certain point, carry on to the next. Intimacy with a make and model is hard to find in a mechanic today. This can also be attributed to the reliability of the new vehicles. No quick fix to what is happening in the industry.
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