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Spyder on FIRE
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Sounds dangerous!
I don't think it is good to jump to any conclusions here. I merely wanted to point out my surprise at the extent of the oil blow-by, and to point out that at very least it could have added fuel to the fire. Oil fires can be fierce, take it from an old front-engined dragster driver, but they are hard to ignite, and are usually smoky and fairly slow burning unless there is fuel in the oil (especially nitro). There are numerous possible sources in this area, including wiring, the fuel filter, fuel lines, evap canister, and evap lines besides the oil from the airbox. Hopefully an investigation of this less-than-fully-toasted Spyder will shed some light on possible causes, but until then, we cannot assume anything.
-Scotty
chascarpenter1
New member
I tool my panels off today just for some sh*# and giggles. I also had oil in the air box and slight splattering around the engine compartment as many others have had.
This got me thinking; petroleum based product, heat and thin pieces of plastic body paneling this is probably a potentially hazardous situation.
I had read another post that read lots of smoke no fire which would be indicative of oil on hot engine pieces.
This is by no mean a fact just some deductive reasoning and a good precautionary measure would be La monster's crank case breather mod. which I will be doing as soon as i can get some time.
--"It looks like Scotty noted the possibility. Didn't what to take someone else's idea".
This got me thinking; petroleum based product, heat and thin pieces of plastic body paneling this is probably a potentially hazardous situation.
I had read another post that read lots of smoke no fire which would be indicative of oil on hot engine pieces.
This is by no mean a fact just some deductive reasoning and a good precautionary measure would be La monster's crank case breather mod. which I will be doing as soon as i can get some time.
--"It looks like Scotty noted the possibility. Didn't what to take someone else's idea".
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Firefly
Active member
My dealer told me yesterday they were aware of a Spyder fire in Indiana. They were contacted to come up with repair cost estimate for Progressive insurance.
They came up with $ 6,000 in parts and over 50 hours of labor - told Progressive they were crazy and to just total the whole thing.
They came up with $ 6,000 in parts and over 50 hours of labor - told Progressive they were crazy and to just total the whole thing.
SPYDERPOPS
SpyderLovers Sponsor
I inspected my evap canister and was very surprised to see that the air tube was turned to the rear. If any fuel was to come out of this tube it would go straight onto the rear header pipe. If I was running down the road it would probably evaporate past the pipe. NOW, if I were to stop and the fuel did the burp on a hot day it would go straight to the pipe.
To correct this suspect hose I turned it forward and bought a 3/8" plastic connector with barbs and installed enough 3/8" gas line to reach the bottom of the Spyder. That hose is no longer a suspect.
I don't trust the crimped hose clamps on the fuel filter either and I'm considering replacing with very good worm screw clamps. They look secure now but I'm keeping my eye's on them. I agree that the fuel filter is just in the wrong place.
Either the fuel filter or the evap canister could create a problem if sitting still after a hot day ride when the fuel could drip straight down.
Harvey
To correct this suspect hose I turned it forward and bought a 3/8" plastic connector with barbs and installed enough 3/8" gas line to reach the bottom of the Spyder. That hose is no longer a suspect.
I don't trust the crimped hose clamps on the fuel filter either and I'm considering replacing with very good worm screw clamps. They look secure now but I'm keeping my eye's on them. I agree that the fuel filter is just in the wrong place.
Either the fuel filter or the evap canister could create a problem if sitting still after a hot day ride when the fuel could drip straight down.
Harvey
Firefly
Active member
It has been stated by someone out here that the screw-clamps don't apply even pressure around those - thus they don't work as well.
That being said - I've always felt better with a screw clamp on things - just seems like it won't come loose as easily.
bjt
Very Helpful Member
We use a ton of crimp on hose clamps at my work and those things are super reliable. As long as the proper size clamp is put on the hose and it's crimped down properly, they do not work loose. They have to be cut off and the hose itself will wear out before the clamps fail.
Extracool
New member
Fuel Leak
Just took my spyder to dealer to have fuel lin from filter to carb replaced, it was spewing gas back towards the fuelfilter. The hose was a little short from the factory and so the clamp was right at the end of the small tube coming out of the fuel filter,must have been leaking for a while, the hose on the outlet side of fuel filter was cracked and looked like a dry rotted tire. I was riding and my eyes started burning so bad I had to pull over and wipe my eyes with my T-shirt. When I got home and parked it, I smelled gas,pulled the cover and gas was dripping from the fuel line, I started it up and there was a fine mist spraying back towards the fuel filter, I released the pressure on the fuel cap and it quit.:dontknow:
Just took my spyder to dealer to have fuel lin from filter to carb replaced, it was spewing gas back towards the fuelfilter. The hose was a little short from the factory and so the clamp was right at the end of the small tube coming out of the fuel filter,must have been leaking for a while, the hose on the outlet side of fuel filter was cracked and looked like a dry rotted tire. I was riding and my eyes started burning so bad I had to pull over and wipe my eyes with my T-shirt. When I got home and parked it, I smelled gas,pulled the cover and gas was dripping from the fuel line, I started it up and there was a fine mist spraying back towards the fuel filter, I released the pressure on the fuel cap and it quit.:dontknow:
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Is there anything Lamont or the collective of this board (no offense to Star Trek fans) can do? Being this looks like multiple cases of something quite dangerous, can't we get this tread to BRP so that they look into this more?
I love following what everyone is saying, but it shouldn't be the duty of the owner to figure out the problem (whatever it might be) with the bike.
Just as the DPS issue is now in for a recall, this issue should be investigated...we don't have an attorney in this group who can write a letter and kindly ask BRP to investigate this?
The 3 or 4 people with the fires have been lucky so far...they haven't been hurt...what will it take to get BRP to take notice??
I love following what everyone is saying, but it shouldn't be the duty of the owner to figure out the problem (whatever it might be) with the bike.
Just as the DPS issue is now in for a recall, this issue should be investigated...we don't have an attorney in this group who can write a letter and kindly ask BRP to investigate this?
The 3 or 4 people with the fires have been lucky so far...they haven't been hurt...what will it take to get BRP to take notice??
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
A good attorney could definitely help this along. When in doubt, call an attorney! :2thumbs:
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