Spyder Loyalty

[BLACK WIDOW]

I consider myself a loyal Spyder owner that has strongly recommended the product to everyone that has asked. I know for a fact that I have been responsible for at least three Spyder sales due to this. I am now beginning to wonder about my own Spyder. I am almost afraid to take the thing on a long ride with my wife in fear of some strange breakdown. I am hearing about Output Shaft failures, Front pulley failures, Rear wheel bearing failures, Gps issues, Dps issues, Rear fenders falling off, and many others. Does anyone else feel the same way? I will have to admit that I have not experienced any of these issues (7000 mi.) and also realize that maybe not all will have issues, but it seems as though many are having problems that I consider major, and not just annoyances. Just my current thoughts; What are yours? nojoke

Michael:doorag:

 

[pitmon]

I too considered myself a loyal spyder owner. I love the bike, the concept, the feeling I get when I ride it, not to mention all the attention it gets. However, after what happened yesterday, I do not intend to be loyal to the grave. I plan on taking the bike home to my dealer, having the issues fixed, and putting her up for sale. Truth be told... I don't trust the bike anymore.. I am afraid to ride her on the twistie roads that we like to ride.

 

[SpyderAnn]

I have 16000 miles on my Spyder and have had no problems. I've taken many trips, in fact all but about 1000 miles have been trips. The longest trip to date was 2500 to Vermont. The Spyder was perfect! Iv'e ridden the 2 lane twisties to the the 6 lane interstates. I have never encountered anything the Spyder couldn't handle and I have not had so much as a hic cup from my machine. I say ride with confidence in your machine. Brp has done a wonderful job with the Spyder.

 

[wolfshead1]

I feel like the groom at a nightmare wedding.I have said ok to a new RS and have been waiting for comfort seat and bags that I ordered.Trading in my Ultra that has never had a hiccup for the Spyder has me really nervous.I have followed this forum for months and had a feeling the Spyder was getting better.These posts in the last few days are scary.I also did not want to buy the BEST Plus but I have to now.Just to ride it home.

sitting ugly here,
Wolfshead1

 

[chris56]

i have now 19.000 km (12.000 mls) - most together with my wife - some alone with some other bikers ..
absolut never ever had any problems .. - since the last service the break-queeking is complete away - I was used to hear that..
maybe you read to much here in the forum - there are some other 1000ends of users how do not wright down anything..
one-of-the-best-and-reliable..bikes i ever had in 30 years
thats it
chris

 

[Smylinacha]

I am not loyal to anything, except my family. If I buy something and it works, more or less I'll probably buy the same brand again of whatever - so long as it keeps working. Doesn't mean I'm loyal because the minute it starts to have all sorts of problems, I'll dump it as fast as I bought it. I have no patience when it comes to waiting for resolution if any type of bureaucracy is involved.

 

[mvengineer]

Like all, love the spyder concept. A couple minor shifting issues that were recently corrected. Have been riding it to my office all summer and enjoyed every bit of it espically my 20 mile route in the morning is along Lake Huron, watching gorgeous sun rises. Intend to continue to ride it and develop the confidence in the bikes reliability which I must admit I do not have it at this point. I have a few numbers programmed on my cell phone if I need to be towed which is always in the back of my mind. I have absolutly no mechanical or motorcycle fixing abilities whatsover.
I am discourged by some pictures I saw of 2 year bike guts riden here in Michigan. I like my toys to be in perfect physical and operating condition no matter how old. I will contiue to monitor my spyder and if it shows or acts in a way that takes away from my PLEASURE in any way shape or form then I will move to another brand that had the test of time to meet my criteria. Thanks for allowing me to express my opinion.

 

[tatt2r]

I consider myself a loyal Spyder owner that has strongly recommended the product to everyone that has asked. I know for a fact that I have been responsible for at least three Spyder sales due to this. I am now beginning to wonder about my own Spyder. I am almost afraid to take the thing on a long ride with my wife in fear of some strange breakdown. I am hearing about Output Shaft failures, Front pulley failures, Rear wheel bearing failures, Gps issues, Dps issues, Rear fenders falling off, and many others. Does anyone else feel the same way? I will have to admit that I have not experienced any of these issues (7000 mi.) and also realize that maybe not all will have issues, but it seems as though many are having problems that I consider major, and not just annoyances. Just my current thoughts; What are yours? nojoke

Michael:doorag:

people have racked up some heavy milage on there spyders ... i drive it ...it brakes ill have it towed and rent a car to get home ... all we hear is the bad ...how bout the good ... there are a handfull of people with problems ...but i'm sure there are a sh&* load without...
again just my opinion

 

[Love2Ride]

We've had the gps issue and the sputtering issue. So far the updates have done their jobs and our dealership is just the best in their support.

However, the steering thing has me shaken. I'm going to discuss this with my husband (spyderwolf) so that we can be aware of it and for the time being avoid the interstate.

Everything has risks. We really put a lot of trust into these man made machines weather they're cars or bikes. Then there's that whole "the other car on the road with the crazy driver" issue.

It's truly my prayer that we're all kept safe. I'd just break down if something happened to one of us over this.

 

[jrl.spyder]

Many more for than against.

Web forums, like this great one, create a place to express personal opinions, vent frustrations, and offer success stories. I believe that all such commentary is valid to post, but I also believe that the positive feedback about our new toy(s) will far outweigh the negative, JMHO.

That said, the frustrations are clearly real, for those who experience them, and continued loyalty can be at risk.

 

[baldev]

loyal Thing

How do you get loyal to a non breathing, non loving, non emotional thing ?:dontknow:

As Americans ( I've lived in 14 diff countries or more ) we are bombarded with Marketing babble**** on a a daily basis. Psychology is used and Psychologist are employed by many firms to get into the brainwaves of average Americans to make them 'accept" lies, fraud and cheats ,that I have not seen in any other countries.:helpsmilie:

I believe BRP does the same tho I do like the Spyder and have had no major probs.:yes:

Look at all the informercials, diet pills with miracle cures, cleaning products that will wash away sins, exercise machines that need no workout and so called Pastor and Priest that will buy you a home in Gods palaces ray: ( for money ).

Our brains are fried to accept so much so that even when there is a genuine problem aka Spyder we are ridiculed, admonish and shut out by "loyal" patrons.

Loyalty and emotion should be given only to breathing and lively beings ( both animals and human ).

My spiritual discourse for today................free.:gaah:

 

[baldev]

I am not loyal to anything, except my family. If I buy something and it works, more or less I'll probably buy the same brand again of whatever - so long as it keeps working. Doesn't mean I'm loyal because the minute it starts to have all sorts of problems, I'll dump it as fast as I bought it. I have no patience when it comes to waiting for resolution if any type of bureaucracy is involved.

:agree::2thumbs::agree:

 

[WackyDan]

I will say that this is my first brand new bike. Every other one I've owned I bought second hand.

Other than a motor eating itself on my Yamaha Fazer, my used bikes were extremely dependable.

I do expect a brand new vehicle to have a few things on the "punch" list to take care of.... But after 3000 miles, my Spyder is in the shop with what looks like a bad oil pressure sensor, and a potential bad radiator cap or split coolant tank. Minor items in the grand scheme of things though.

I'm still concerned about overall reliability. I plan on having the Spyder paid off before I've even had it a year. If at that point I feel the need to go back to two wheels, then I may do that if I run into any major maintenance or dealer issues that prevent me from enjoying my Spyder.

 

[NancysToy]

people have racked up some heavy milage on there spyders ... i drive it ...it brakes ill have it towed and rent a car to get home ... all we hear is the bad ...how bout the good ... there are a handfull of people with problems ...but i'm sure there are a sh&* load without...
again just my opinion

I pretty much agree. I don't lose faith in a vehicle until if fails me repeatedly. I cannot argue with the kind of mileage, back-to-back Iron Butts, and other rigorous tests that many of our members have subjected their Spyders to. They are a testimony to the Spyder's capabilities. Like the fires, though, severe steering issues are a safety problem that are difficult to ignore. I just want to be aware of the possibilities, make my wife aware, and be prepared to cope. We will continue to ride the Spyder...and my order for an RT will stand. I will understand if some owners or potential buyers see it differently, though. For those that do, I am very sorry. I'm sure you are incredibly disappointed.

 

[Firefly]

people have racked up some heavy milage on there spyders ... i drive it ...it brakes ill have it towed and rent a car to get home ... all we hear is the bad ...how bout the good ... there are a handfull of people with problems ...but i'm sure there are a sh&* load without...
again just my opinion

:agree:

A few bad apples don't mean the whole batch has to be spoiled. Yes - some people are having problems that are more serious than what one might expect - but these are a very small fraction of Spyders.

I don't think it's fair to judge all Spyders on what a very few have breaking on them. Just like the fire issues - these other problems are happening at a very small rate.

I'm one that had steering problems very early on - and got them fixed--- and filed the proper reports so future riders wouldn't have the same problems.

Worrying about your Spyder 'catching' what these few have had doesn't make sense to me.


As far as people being so shocked by seeing a Spyder torn apart--- not sure what you all expect. It's a machine. Brian and Debs might look a bit rougher than most - but realize they ride and ride and ride--- even in the snow--- which is something BRP says not to do.

Riding in such conditions is going to make things look much worse and may contribute to premature wear and tear. Much of the hardware under the Spyder is zinc-plated - which is horrible once salt gets on it.


Things sure have taken a bad turn lately against BRP out here - some of it justified (for those actually having problems) - but the rest is just worrying for the sake of worrying.

Ride and enjoy - and if you have a problem deal with it when it comes up.

 

[jgwoods]

I was a mechanic for 23 years and after a while it occurred to me that I had a negative opinion of the cars I serviced. The reason was that I got to fix all of the broken ones and never did much of anything to the good ones, so in my view they all looked like lemons. They weren't. Most of them were terrific and made their owners happy as reliable transport.

I think the internet gives us all a sort of mechanics view- all of the problems are broadcast loud and clear- and often repeated over and over by folks who never even had the problem but heard about someone who did so they repeat it. :chat: Meanwhile the great cloud of happy owners is out riding around having fun and rarely reporting much of anything, so if you read too much into what you see on internet forums you can start to believe that problems are waiting ahead.

The "rule" I was told is that an unhappy owner will tell 11 people about the problem, a happy owner will tell 3 people.

 

[Neez]

Back in the 1930s the Morgan sports car company developed a reverse trike sports car which featured steering that was 3/4 of a turn lock-to-lock, and they did it without any help from the mighty electron. Couldn't Spyders be made without all this electronic junk? I'm sick of nanny, canbus, purge valves that open at inappropriate times, limp mode, multiple downloads, B.U.D.S., wonky sensors, burnt bulbs that affect engine running, and 'out of lane excursions' caused by robots that decide to take steering control out of my hands. I have ridden motorcycles, lo these many years, without this sort of "assistance" and always with more confidence than I have in my Spyder.

 

[Putt-Putt]

I consider myself a loyal Spyder owner that has strongly recommended the product to everyone that has asked. I know for a fact that I have been responsible for at least three Spyder sales due to this. I am now beginning to wonder about my own Spyder. I am almost afraid to take the thing on a long ride with my wife in fear of some strange breakdown. I am hearing about Output Shaft failures, Front pulley failures, Rear wheel bearing failures, Gps issues, Dps issues, Rear fenders falling off, and many others. Does anyone else feel the same way? I will have to admit that I have not experienced any of these issues (7000 mi.) and also realize that maybe not all will have issues, but it seems as though many are having problems that I consider major, and not just annoyances. Just my current thoughts; What are yours? nojoke

Michael:doorag:

Not quite there yet but it has caused some thought of concern on it. Sure would get screwed if I had to sell it as I don't think I could recover the $5,ooo in accessories I have on it.
The wife and I really like it but having it brake down in the middle of nowhere like say out in the desert at night, would be scary. Where there is no help of any kind.

 

[wyliec]

Not quite there yet but it has caused some thought of concern on it. Sure would get screwed if I had to sell it as I don't think I could recover the $5,ooo in accessories I have on it.
The wife and I really like it but having it brake down in the middle of nowhere like say out in the desert at night, would be scary. Where there is no help of any kind.

Have a cell phone? You could have a breakdown even with a car in the middle of nowhere.

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Spyder

Back in the 1930s the Morgan sports car company developed a reverse trike sports car which featured steering that was 3/4 of a turn lock-to-lock, and they did it without any help from the mighty electron. Couldn't Spyders be made without all this electronic junk? I'm sick of nanny, canbus, purge valves that open at inappropriate times, limp mode, multiple downloads, B.U.D.S., wonky sensors, burnt bulbs that affect engine running, and 'out of lane excursions' caused by robots that decide to take steering control out of my hands. I have ridden motorcycles, lo these many years, without this sort of "assistance" and always with more confidence than I have in my Spyder.

Point well taken!!


Michael:doorag: