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Spyder issues
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Raptor
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HMMM... Spyder riding on the Big Island. It would be a tough assignment, but I think I could handle it! :roflblack: I envy you Sir!
I guess the only concern I would have is whether or not there is a dealer or qualified shop on the Big Island. Even if you are mechanically inclined sometimes you just gotta have dealer support. But my mind is already enisioning riding in the Islands. Fantastic! :yes:
I guess the only concern I would have is whether or not there is a dealer or qualified shop on the Big Island. Even if you are mechanically inclined sometimes you just gotta have dealer support. But my mind is already enisioning riding in the Islands. Fantastic! :yes:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
A year ago there was not a Spyder dealer to be found on any of the Islands. I really tried--because I want to ride a Spyder so bad there. You can rent HD's Kawi, and a few other brands--as well as scooters--but no Spyders as of then. I wanted to do the Hana Hwy on Maui. I did not fit on a HD very well for driving position--the only bike I could get when I was there--so had to give it up.
GeoffCee
New member
Since I installed my sat-nav I have noticed that the Spyder's speedo runs fast by only 1.5 mph of my GPS's speed readout. This is closer to "reality" than the 4 mph optimistic reading of my car's speedo and the BeeEmm bike's speedo I was riding prior to becoming a trike owner was 6 mph fast. I have always assumed the sat-nav's indicated speed to be accurate but this could be wishful thinking on my part, I have no information to back this up. :dontknow:
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
That seems to reflect what I have seen. My 2010 RT was 1-3 mph fast, depending on the speed. My 2011 is less...maybe 2 mph at 75. Nancy's RS is more, at least 2-4 mph optimistic. My BMW is a police bike, with a calibrated speedo, so it is right on, but most modern ones are high by about 5-6 mph. That beats the older ones, that were typically 10-12% high.
A GPS is quite accurate, but there are footnotes. It needs to track several satellites for best accuracy, and it will not be 100% accurate on a steep grade, since the satellite sees it as moving on a shorter, flat surface, while the actual distance traveled, up or down a grade, is actually more. The hypotenuse of a triangle is always longer than the adjacent side. Most of the time the GPS will give the better indication.
Bob Denman
New member
Some of us are Huligans...pps::roflblack:
Or worse!
hyea: (I can always be useful as the "Bad Example"... pps
kmakona
New member
Hawaii Spyder
Not having a dealer is a concern taking it to Hawaii. Riding n the Big Island is awesome. I have been all the states except Florida. I have an old PC800, which I love, and I just never tire the same routes. We have a really good motorcycle dealership that sells and services Honda kawasaki, KTM and others. They are skeptic towards the Can Am.
Not having a dealer is a concern taking it to Hawaii. Riding n the Big Island is awesome. I have been all the states except Florida. I have an old PC800, which I love, and I just never tire the same routes. We have a really good motorcycle dealership that sells and services Honda kawasaki, KTM and others. They are skeptic towards the Can Am.
Raptor
New member
Well Sir, this could be a GOLDEN oppurtunity for that dealership and for BRP to establish a new footprint in one of the most beautiful spots on the face of the Earth.
In my opinion BRP would be crazy not to make this happen. I believe the Spyder would do exceptionally well there. nojoke
Hey BRP, are you listening?
BajaRon
Well-known member
Mileage depends a lot on how big a windshield you're running. I regularly get 32~36 mpg on my 2008 SM5. I averaged 34+ on the trip to Cowtown running 70-80 mph for about 650 miles.
Everyone says I don't but I'm sorry, I do.
I run a small windshield and premium fuel. Free flow exhaust/air cleaner and Juice Box.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Everyone says I don't but I'm sorry, I do.
I run a small windshield and premium fuel. Free flow exhaust/air cleaner and Juice Box.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Some Guy
New member
:agree: I got over 30 mpg regularly before I installed the C.H.A.D. shield. Now I get anywhere from 25 to 29.
GeoffCee
New member
A good few years back, when we first started to bolt sat-nav's to our bikes, the question of which to believe, the sat-nav or the speedo, was a topic discussed regularly in the bikers club I belonged to.
We had a couple of serving police motorcycle riders in the club who told us that speedo's were manufactured to read a few percent high by law. The law's intention was never to allow a driver or rider to put the blame on his vehicle's speedo when exceeding the posted limit.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Over here, it is not by law, but it is by design. Most speedos are calibrated to give a true indication based on the full diameter of the standard tire that is fitted. The rolling diameter of the tire is less, thus reducing the effective circumference of the tire when it is loaded and the sidewalls flex. Tread wear reduces the diameter (and circumference) further. As a result, the tire vehicle does not travel as far for each revolution of the tire, but the speedo thinks it does, since it measures the revolutions. The end result is that most speedos read high. Fitting a taller tire can have the opposite effect.A good few years back, when we first started to bolt sat-nav's to our bikes, the question of which to believe, the sat-nav or the speedo, was a topic discussed regularly in the bikers club I belonged to.
We had a couple of serving police motorcycle riders in the club who told us that speedo's were manufactured to read a few percent high by law. The law's intention was never to allow a driver or rider to put the blame on his vehicle's speedo when exceeding the posted limit.
Bob Denman
New member
If you'd change that to a "Will have"... :agree:
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
True for most vehicles. Guess I was thinking about my old dragster days, where low pressures could make a "taller" tire squat more that the shorter, stiffer tire that was replaced. I stand corrected.If you'd change that to a "Will have"... :agree:
LittleJohn
New member
A squared plus B squared equals C squared, where C = the hypotenuse of a right triangle....LOL
Raptor
New member
I saw a Hyptenuse at the Zoo just the other day... no wait... :roflblack:
Darn you, Bob, yer rubbin' off on me! Happy Friday everybody!
We now return you to your normally scheduled thread...
GeoffCee
New member
Just thought I'd look up the speedo regs for the UK on Wikipedia.
"As with the UNECE regulation and the EC Directives, the speedometer must never show an indicated speed less than the actual speed. However it differs slightly from them in specifying that for all actual speeds between 25 mph and 70 mph (or the vehicles' maximum speed if it is lower than this), the indicated speed must not exceed 110% of the actual speed, plus 6.25 mph.
For example, if the vehicle is actually travelling at 50 mph, the speedometer must not show more than 61.25 mph or less than 50 mph."
Regulations rather than laws, per se, but the effect on the manufacture of vehicles is the same. The point you made on speedo accuracy relative to tire wear is well taken. :f_spider:
kmakona
New member
Speedo and law
Several years back a sergeant with the california highway patrol told me, "that vehicles are not accurate to within 3 miles per hour plus or minus. Because of this inaccuracy the officers were not to ticket for andy vehicle five miles or less over the speed limit. It was at the desecration of the ticketing officer 5-10 miles over the limit. Speeders 10 and over the driver was to get a ticket.
Several years back a sergeant with the california highway patrol told me, "that vehicles are not accurate to within 3 miles per hour plus or minus. Because of this inaccuracy the officers were not to ticket for andy vehicle five miles or less over the speed limit. It was at the desecration of the ticketing officer 5-10 miles over the limit. Speeders 10 and over the driver was to get a ticket.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
1. 26 is not bad if you're riding hard...I get a little better but I have to be cruising more
2. Like Fire mentioned, your bike speedometer is 2-4 mph faster than the GPS
3. Go to the dealer and have them fix the emergency brake...it's under warranty and there is a bulletin for this...I have a manual and even when I leave the bike in first gear, I still put the brake on...the more ways to keep the bike still, the better...
Enjoy and ride safe!
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