Spyder fires in the news

[chillirider]

:bdh::bdh::bdh:

 

[Questions]

Bah its just a rumor started by angry HD guys nojoke
they wanna rain on our parade!:yes:

 

[SilverSurfer]

Heatfire beat me to it :clap:

"Spontaneous Combustion?" Oh g'ness g'ness.

 

[Firefly]

Bah its just a rumor started by angry HD guys nojoke
they wanna rain on our parade!:yes:

:roflblack:

Fact is we do not know what caused the fires. PERIOD. Lot's a assuming and guessing, but no one out here knows for sure.

No need to worry about the sky falling when it simply ISN'T.

I'd bet you can find more fires of whatever particular car each of us drives than there have been Spyder fires, but people aren't out on the GM or FORD forums spreading fear.

Heck, HD has had plenty of fires on various models too.

It's a machine that burns fuel - rider beware - no matter what brand - none are perfect.

 

[SpyderGirl]

Spyder Fires = :bdh:

Yup.... forget about it and just enjoy the RYDE!!

 

[wyliec]

Now I know why the band on the Titanic kept playing as the ship sank......
Some folks just refuse to accept reality.....:roflblack:


Fact of the matter is, more than a few 2008 Spyders, along with some 2009 Spyders started to spontaneously combust a couple of summers ago. BRP has since addressed the problem without ever admitting it, and the problem seems to have dissipated. I wouldn't worry about the newer Spyders catching fire.....


Those that minimize and downplay potential troubles do just as much disservice to the uninformed as do those who sensationalize it.......:chill:

:agree:

Firefly,

Have you had a chance to look at post #71 in the thread address I gave? BRP paid over $4,000 to fix the burnt spyder. We were actually both right. They (BRP) paid for the damages; they did not replace.

Here, just in case you don't want to look it up:

"Well, found out what happened. It was caused by the evaporator canister. Since I was deployed, I was unable to get the recall done. BRP is covering all costs (over 4 grand) of the repair. I should have my Spyder back in about a week as long as the parts come in, which BRP also stated they are putting a priority on.
I want to say thanks to everyone who emailed me. Especially Lamonster for your assistance on getting BRP involved with this. I was seriously loosing faith in BRP and the dealership. BRP has redeemed themselves. And I know my insurance company is also grateful."

HDX,

Did you notice that same person sings the same tune all the time. It seems to be his way or no way. He's not what you call Mr. Right; he's Mr. Always Right. And, I think he was getting a dig at you when he mentioned conspiracy theory; I'm just guessing here, don't quote me.

 

[wyliec]

:bdh::bdh::bdh:

I find safety issues more important than public floggings of a non-expert write up for an oil change, which just seemed to go on and on and on and on......................

 

[tfjunkie]

:bdh:Happened to us, so do not laugh.

We had just gassed up ,pulled out of the station.
At the first stop light, as i shifted from side to side...
Next thing i know there are flames coming up between my legs.

I told the Mrs. get off we're on fire!!!!

I started beating the flames with my gloves, till the flames stopped.

Needless to say, we had raised the attention of our fellow motorists at the stop light.

Little to no real damage.

I think many things made this possible.

It was a scorching hot day, of course the bike was hot too.
We had just filled up.
When i shifted side to side , this caused gas to come out at the gas cap.

I believe the fumes, the heat off the motor, and us being at a dead stop, caused the ideal storm.

I no longer fill up on really hot days, and haven't been able to recreate the situation.......thankfully.


Now if you folks at the factory want to try.......have fun!
I would recommend a fire suit and some marshmellows:roflblack:

 

[Firefly]

Wyliec, I don't see your need to get personal about this.

You mentioned the story about the burnt 'military' spyder and I said I did not remember brp replacing his spyder. I did not recall them fixing it either.

The thread does mention that brp covered it.

My question is WHY did they cover it?

No time to look it up now, but I think there was more to this story than just a sitting spyder that caught fire. Was there some shoddy service done or something?

Out of the approximately 10-12 spyders that burnt, I would think that most were covered by Insurance- not brp.

Not sure why someone would think brp should cover it when there has been no conclusive evidence that this is a design flaw or the fault of brp.

A handful of people reported these to the nhtsa and I've yet to see them issue a recall. This tells me that either not enough were reported to warrant a full investigation or that their investigation was inconclusive.

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion in this, but they're not welcome to their own facts.

 

[bone crusher]

Wyliec, I don't see your need to get personal about this.

You mentioned the story about the burnt 'military' spyder and I said I did not remember brp replacing his spyder. I did recall them fixing it either.

The thread does mention that brp covered it.

My question is WHY did they cover it?

No time to look it up now, but I think there was more to this story than just a sitting spyder that caught fire. Was there some shoddy service done or something?

Out of the approximately 10-12 spyders that burnt, I would think that most were covered by Insurance- not brp.

Not sure why someone would think brp should cover it when there has been no conclusive evidence that this is a design flaw or the fault of brp.

A handful of people reported these to the nhtsa and I've yet to see them issue a recall. This tells me that either not enough were reported to warrant a full investigation or that their investigation was inconclusive.

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion in this, but they're not welcome to their own facts.

I agree...there are so many things that people do to their bikes that could cause problems...just think about all the electrical things we do and the potential for fire from that...now go to extra fuel tanks, changes in engine parts all over the place that affect air, fuel, etc...

I think that the ratio of fires vs. the total number of bikes on the road falls well within limits of what would be considered 'normal.' Every vehicle has issues...of course, to those who had a problem, it stinks, no question.

With the case of someone's bike that sat for 4 or 6 months (in the heat?), maybe a rodent had chewed on lines...maybe something leaked, maybe whatever...who knows...it's hard to just say it's BRP's fault...

I think many here who have beaten the drums about BRP's problems have definitely not gone unnoticed...and this is actually good. We want Carlo and BRP execs. to come here and see what a lot of riders are thinking/saying...however, when people go out on a line and blame BRP for everything, I think this has to be tempered with what is really known about the bike and what BRP is doing in the background to keep us all save.

 

[wyliec]

With the case of someone's bike that sat for 4 or 6 months (in the heat?), maybe a rodent had chewed on lines...maybe something leaked, maybe whatever...who knows...it's hard to just say it's BRP's fault...

The post said that it was determined to be the evap canister. The member had been stationed overseas and the recall hadn't been done.

Firefly,

I wasn't getting personal. I'm stating that there is nothing wrong for someone with a genuine problem to want to get BRP involved.

If you are talking about my statement that said someone was referring to HDX in regards to a conspiracy theory, that was directed at SS.

 

[Firefly]

With the case of someone's bike that sat for 4 or 6 months (in the heat?), maybe a rodent had chewed on lines...maybe something leaked, maybe whatever...who knows...it's hard to just say it's BRP's fault...

The post said that it was determined to be the evap canister. The member had been stationed overseas and the recall hadn't been done.

Firefly,

I wasn't getting personal. I'm stating that there is nothing wrong for someone with a genuine problem to want to get BRP involved.

If you are talking about my statement that said someone was referring to HDX in regards to a conspiracy theory, that was directed at SS.

Ok. :2thumbs:

It's not that I totally disagree with some of the fires being related to the Evap. Can--- I think that's a pretty sound theory--just one that has not been proven. Just like the DPS issues - we very well may never know what the cause was--- but it's been fixed regardless.

And while that poster said BRP and/or his dealer said "It was due to the Evap Can" - this is hardly concrete evidence. That could simply be the opinion of the service tech since the evap hose update had not been done.

Still not quite sure why that whole mess wasn't an insurance claim--- or maybe it partially was as he did mention the service dept. getting a quote ready for the insurance company.

If mine ever goes up in flames I won't even try to put it out - would rather let it burn and just get a new 2011. Not to mention attempting to put it out could be dangerous. I pay good $$ for my insurance and will use it if and when needed--- if they want to go after BRP -- fine--- doesn't really matter to me as long as I got a new or repaired Spyder.

 

[bone crusher]

With the case of someone's bike that sat for 4 or 6 months (in the heat?), maybe a rodent had chewed on lines...maybe something leaked, maybe whatever...who knows...it's hard to just say it's BRP's fault...

The post said that it was determined to be the evap canister. The member had been stationed overseas and the recall hadn't been done.

Firefly,

I wasn't getting personal. I'm stating that there is nothing wrong for someone with a genuine problem to want to get BRP involved.

If you are talking about my statement that said someone was referring to HDX in regards to a conspiracy theory, that was directed at SS.

Just a thought...with sitting for a long period of time and then firing up the bike...let's say there was a lot of heat and evaporation...would this affect the evap. canister...make something more susceptible to catch on fire? I know there is a recall fix on this, and obviously only a few had a problem...just wondering if this situation could create a bigger risk...long time sitting in the heat and all?

 

[M2Wild]

No complicated products like Spyder is without their problems. Although I disagree with their stealthy and irresponsible approach, but ultimately I believe BRP has found the issues (evap can, DPS) and addressed it. Unfortunately numerous owners had to suffer greatly first. I am very happy with my Spyder and the only problem I have run into is a weak battery which will be replaced come spring time.

 

[SilverFox1]

I aggree with most of the posts about a :spyder2: catching on fire. That is a sad thing to happen to anyone or any machine. To begin with, I hope nobody got hurt in the process. And, secondly, be thankfull it did not happen in your garage or something like that. But most of all, if this would happen in an airplane, now that would really suck big time would'nt it!!! :gaah:

SilverFox

 

[musicarcade]

If mine ever goes up in flames I won't even try to put it out - would rather let it burn and just get a new 2011. Not to mention attempting to put it out could be dangerous. I pay good $$ for my insurance and will use it if and when needed--- if they want to go after BRP -- fine--- doesn't really matter to me as long as I got a new or repaired Spyder.

:agree:
I'm sure many other :spyder2:ryders that have followed these threads feel the same!

 

[Raptor]

I agree that no one really knows what causes these fires; it may not be tied to just one thing or circumstance. The fact that it cannot be pin-pointed still has many wondering. The hot season will upon us again before we know it so we will see what happens this time around. I think the fact that there is a heightened awareness about this issue will help a lot of us be more careful, check our Spyders more often and hopefully avoid a catastrophic situation.

It would break my heart if 14 ever burned; but I would not risk my life trying to save it either. I'm with FireFly on that one! Machines can be replaced...

 

[boborgera]

It would break my heart if 14 ever burned; but I would not risk my life trying to save it either. I'm with FireFly on that one! Machines can be replaced...

I also agree, I have fire insurance, And I'm sure my insurance co. won't give me a medal for trying to save my Spyder, Let alone pay for all time and aggravation it will take to repair a burnt Spyder.

 

[ataDude]

I agree that no one really knows what causes these fires; it may not be tied to just one thing or circumstance. The fact that it cannot be pin-pointed still has many wondering...

Call me obstinate, opinionated or even stubborn... but there is no doubt in my mind that the stealthy, unpublished emissions canister hose upgrade, in conjunction with the publicized software change from BRP, indicated the root cause.

In my little feeble opinionated mind, the canister's original little u-hose, spewing gas/fumes 2" from and toward the header, was the cause.

.

 

[wyliec]

Call me obstinate, opinionated or even stubborn... but there is no doubt in my mind that the stealthy, unpublished emissions canister hose upgrade, in conjunction with the publicized software change from BRP, indicated the root cause.

In my little feeble opinionated mind, the canister's original little u-hose, spewing gas/fumes 2" from and toward the header, was the cause.

.

The question that still comes to mind regarding the vent hose is why was/is there a s/n break for the '08 and '09 spyders? Carlo couldn't answer that. Can anyone here?

My spyder had the short vent tube and didn't fall within the s/n break; but, it has been replaced.