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Spyder fires in the news
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SNSTRO
New member
I am new to owning a spyder just got a 2008 SE5 road it twice before haing to wait for the dps recall and now that is over with I am constantly reading stuff on here about Spyder's breaking down and or catching on FIRE!!!.. It is making me nervious and making me wonder did I buy a Problematic, fire hazard.. that the Company who made it will not stand behind its product... dont get me wrong I have wanted and loved the spyder since i first saw one.. and now that I finally have one... seems I read more and more bad stuff... it is really discouraging, and worrisom..
Will I have fun with the spyder or will it burst into flames or become a money pit at the repair shop.. I really hope not..
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Will I have fun with the spyder or will it burst into flames or become a money pit at the repair shop.. I really hope not..
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Slybird
New member
Will I have fun with the spyder or will it burst into flames or become a money pit at the repair shop.. I really hope not..
Having retired from the Customer Service Department of one of our "Most Love To Hate" Governmental Agencies
, I realize that the issues that create the most smoke (no pun/reference intended) are the one's that get the most airtime. My friend, you have nothing to worry about. Get out there, enjoy your :spyder2: and don't look back!!
Eraser
New member
Your post sounds much like one that I made when I first bought my Spyder(now I have Two!!).....and I'm a very happy owner.
Re-calls and accidents happen to every brand of vehicle made.A small percentage are actually affected.Keep your cool!!You have bought a great Bike made by a Classy Company:thumbup:.Enjoy yourself!!!:yes:
Re-calls and accidents happen to every brand of vehicle made.A small percentage are actually affected.Keep your cool!!You have bought a great Bike made by a Classy Company:thumbup:.Enjoy yourself!!!:yes:
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Worry Not!
These machines are made by man. There is nothing perfect. Like you, I bought one used with 5000 miles on it. After riding it a hundred mies home. It broke down on the very next ride. The support I received, was nothing short of phenomenal! Not only from the members but also from Carlo at the factory.
In the last week, I have put over 300 miles and the machine is running really well.
The extended warranty covered the, unusual, repair.
The only weakness I can see is the dealers are still "new" and may be building experience.
But, I have had more support, from BRP - Can Am than I ever received from Cadillac or Lincoln.
I AM HAPPY WITH MY PURCHASE, and will probably upgrade in the future to the RT.
These machines are made by man. There is nothing perfect. Like you, I bought one used with 5000 miles on it. After riding it a hundred mies home. It broke down on the very next ride. The support I received, was nothing short of phenomenal! Not only from the members but also from Carlo at the factory.
In the last week, I have put over 300 miles and the machine is running really well.
The extended warranty covered the, unusual, repair.
The only weakness I can see is the dealers are still "new" and may be building experience.
But, I have had more support, from BRP - Can Am than I ever received from Cadillac or Lincoln.
I AM HAPPY WITH MY PURCHASE, and will probably upgrade in the future to the RT.
:dontknow:I am new to owning a spyder just got a 2008 SE5 road it twice before haing to wait for the dps recall and now that is over with I am constantly reading stuff on here about Spyder's breaking down and or catching on FIRE!!!.. It is making me nervious and making me wonder did I buy a Problematic, fire hazard.. that the Company who made it will not stand behind its product... dont get me wrong I have wanted and loved the spyder since i first saw one.. and now that I finally have one... seems I read more and more bad stuff... it is really discouraging, and worrisom..
Will I have fun with the spyder or will it burst into flames or become a money pit at the repair shop.. I really hope not..
If you put enough miles on ANY Motorcycle/Snowmobile/ATV, you have to pay to play, Parts will wear out.
I find that i put twice the miles on my Spyder every year as i do on my two wheelers. If i wanted low cost i would have bought a Civic and be bored to death.
As far as fires go, any thing that runs on gas can burn.That's what fire insurance is for. Just ride the thing and enjoy it, :2thumbs:
SilverSurfer
RT-S PE#0391
Okay ... Go Ahead and Hate Me but ...
This isn't against Rando ... he just found the Article (I'm assuming he didn't author or submit the article).
The Spyder is a fine, reliable vehicle. Whoever the guy is that got the ear of the rag newspaper ... this is just an extention of a thread he posted before on Spyderlovers itself to upset people. Apparently, he reached out to his local paper. Credibility: Zero. It doesn't take much to get an article into a newspaper. As a community leader, I see many articles get posted on any topic ... based on gossip, rumor and misinformation.
The actual statistical occurences of Spyder fires, compared to total ownership, is extremely rare and does not exceed any of the other problems that occur on any other motorcycle. NO imperical data has ever surfaced insofar as an engineering defect that causes fires on the Spyder. On the 08/09 RSs, there was a recall on the fuel breather. However, I note note that none of the pyro-reporters have ever stated whether they had that recall done ... and this does not mean that not having it done would have resulted in a fire either.
All internal combustion conveyances have sporadic occurences of engine and fuel fires ... cars, airplanes ... lawn mowers ... motorcycles. Two weeks ago, I watched a brand new Cadillac CRS sitting on the side of the road ... fire engines around it ...entire front of the car gone ... engine fire.
I have watched at three of these threads get started, laced with conspiracy theory and fear mongering, lasting for days with ZERO wisdom. It's riduculous, unproductive and counterintuitive for our community. And by the way ... after all the threads ... there is nothing on the NHTSA web site that warns anyone away from the Can Am Spyder. So it appears that even those who are pounding on the NHTSA drum aren't even providing qualified or quantified information to them. Very much appreciated Slybird's comments above.
I feel bad for folks who have mishaps with their Spyders ... always say it ... always know it. But mongering paranoia and screwing with people's confidence in their machines without valid empirical data, and spreading conspiracy theory around our investment is despicable.
RT-S PE 0391, 6400 miles, and just reaching escape velocity
~ Surfer
This isn't against Rando ... he just found the Article (I'm assuming he didn't author or submit the article).
The Spyder is a fine, reliable vehicle. Whoever the guy is that got the ear of the rag newspaper ... this is just an extention of a thread he posted before on Spyderlovers itself to upset people. Apparently, he reached out to his local paper. Credibility: Zero. It doesn't take much to get an article into a newspaper. As a community leader, I see many articles get posted on any topic ... based on gossip, rumor and misinformation.
The actual statistical occurences of Spyder fires, compared to total ownership, is extremely rare and does not exceed any of the other problems that occur on any other motorcycle. NO imperical data has ever surfaced insofar as an engineering defect that causes fires on the Spyder. On the 08/09 RSs, there was a recall on the fuel breather. However, I note note that none of the pyro-reporters have ever stated whether they had that recall done ... and this does not mean that not having it done would have resulted in a fire either.
All internal combustion conveyances have sporadic occurences of engine and fuel fires ... cars, airplanes ... lawn mowers ... motorcycles. Two weeks ago, I watched a brand new Cadillac CRS sitting on the side of the road ... fire engines around it ...entire front of the car gone ... engine fire.
I have watched at three of these threads get started, laced with conspiracy theory and fear mongering, lasting for days with ZERO wisdom. It's riduculous, unproductive and counterintuitive for our community. And by the way ... after all the threads ... there is nothing on the NHTSA web site that warns anyone away from the Can Am Spyder. So it appears that even those who are pounding on the NHTSA drum aren't even providing qualified or quantified information to them. Very much appreciated Slybird's comments above.
I feel bad for folks who have mishaps with their Spyders ... always say it ... always know it. But mongering paranoia and screwing with people's confidence in their machines without valid empirical data, and spreading conspiracy theory around our investment is despicable.
RT-S PE 0391, 6400 miles, and just reaching escape velocity
~ Surfer
Dudley
New member
Thoughts for those who are concerned about the reliability of the Spyder:
Cars break down and catch fire, are you concerned when you get in your car to go somewhere?
Some will argue about this, but a fire is not a warranty issue. That's why you have insurance. You may never have touched your Spyder, but why should they believe you? Why should they believe anyone? And, the old saying that anything made by man will have issues holds true with the Spyder. And, what is the difference if BRP fixes a burned Spyder or the insurance does? Getting it fixed is the goal.
We are owners of our second Spyder. The first one, a 2008 SE5 gave us flawless dependability (it wasn't perfect, but it never left us stranded) in 43,000 miles. We rode it daily on a round the US trip, far away from the comforts of home and our dealer. Now we have a 2010 RT and plan on having as much trust with it as we did the SE5.
Bottom line...ride your Spyder anytime and anywhere you want to. What will be will be and no one can change that. If anyone is so concerned about their Spyder, it may be best to sell it to someone who will enjoy it without worries.
Cars break down and catch fire, are you concerned when you get in your car to go somewhere?
Some will argue about this, but a fire is not a warranty issue. That's why you have insurance. You may never have touched your Spyder, but why should they believe you? Why should they believe anyone? And, the old saying that anything made by man will have issues holds true with the Spyder. And, what is the difference if BRP fixes a burned Spyder or the insurance does? Getting it fixed is the goal.
We are owners of our second Spyder. The first one, a 2008 SE5 gave us flawless dependability (it wasn't perfect, but it never left us stranded) in 43,000 miles. We rode it daily on a round the US trip, far away from the comforts of home and our dealer. Now we have a 2010 RT and plan on having as much trust with it as we did the SE5.
Bottom line...ride your Spyder anytime and anywhere you want to. What will be will be and no one can change that. If anyone is so concerned about their Spyder, it may be best to sell it to someone who will enjoy it without worries.
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Dudley
New member
Thank you for taking the time to compose such a response. I find what you have said to be 100% on the money. Too bad it's the negative posts with only one side of the story that give potential owners, or new owners, concern of the Spyder's dependability.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
:agree:with Dudley and SilverSurfer. You are always going to find articles about problems. They get more posting time than the good stuff. If you stick around the site for very long though--you will see that most of us love our Spyders. When there is a problem, we can usually find expert help in getting it solved. I've had 3 Spyders and 50,000 miles of rides. Only one problem--a crashed computer on the 2009--which was fixed quickly under warranty. No other problems or issues. I think the fire reporting is 5 or less on this website--someone will correct me if I am wrong. Im going from memory in the last year--not an actual search.
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
I'm not sure I would call this "in the news" to start with and I don't see what good a post like this does other than to freakout the folks that are new owners or potential owners and don't know the history here. I'm not going to waste my time retyping what has been said so many times before but I will say I feel bad for those who have had an issue but these are few and far between.
Firefly
Active member
:agree: 1000 % !
This is no more 'news' than anything else posted on the internet. This sounds like the same guy out here that was all worried about BRP not covering his loss--- which they should NOT -- that is what INSURANCE is for.
"An Internet search shows that many other Spyders have burst into flames, with no apparent cause, so it seems this is a common problem."
Many?? No. A dozen out of 20,000 plus does not constitute 'many' or make this 'common' at all.
"Bombardier Recreational Products (BRP) take no responsibility for the fire and are advising me to have the Spyder repaired by my insurance company. However, this will not correct whatever design defect that caused the fire, which leaves me and my property at risk."
This is 100% an insurance issue. The insurance company may take the issue up with BRP, but once you settle with your insurance-- you're done. Does it matter where the $$$ comes from?
I just had a decent size insurance claim at work due to a power surge. Did I call the power company and ask them why and expect them to pay? No. I called my insurance agent.
Now, my insurance agent did say they will look into THEM going after the power company for some of the $$$ --- not my concern at all.
Spyder Fires = :bdh:
Texmac1011
New member
I've gone 1-1/2 years with zero problems. I maintain it and go. I believe the Spyder is built to last and a quality product, so I ride it with confidence.
I do believe that, although I ride safe and smart, if the good lord wants me to crash and burn I am going to regardless of whether I am on my Spyder, in my truck or walking across the street.
I do believe that, although I ride safe and smart, if the good lord wants me to crash and burn I am going to regardless of whether I am on my Spyder, in my truck or walking across the street.
wyliec
New member
Firefly,
Do you remember a member here who was in the military that came home from overseas duty and his spyder caught fire on his first outing. His spyder had been sitting for I think 6 months (maybe longer). I think he contacted BRP and they replaced his spyder. I don't find it a big deal for someone to try and get BRP involved.
Silversurfer,
I'm not sure if the vent tube extension was a recall. If it was, it was a half a$$ recall. I contacted Carlo and we spoke at length (about 6 months ago)and he could never give me a reason why there was a s/n break for the vent tube extension on the '08 and '09 spyders. He also said there was no connection between any fires and the vent tube extension. My spyder was not within the s/n break; but, Carlo did contact my dealer and they did the install under warranty.
bruiser
New member
:agree:
Firefly
Active member
I do remember the story about the Spyder sitting and catching fire after sitting--- I do not remember anything about BRP replacing it. Not sure why they would .
wyliec
New member
I'm 99.9% sure that they did. I'd look for the thread; but, it may have disappeared like pit bull buggys battery post. So, I don't want to waste my time. Even though I'm 99.9% sure, I'll give it to you ; you win.
Look at post #71 here:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21948&highlight=fire&page=3
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CanAmChris
New member
:agree:
Never trust the internet for "News" There are so many sites that will game the Google seach engine just to get near the top of the hit list. It's not hard to do if you know how.
The Spyder is the best machine I have ever owned and BRP has a huge history of reliable products. Ski-Doo, Sea-Doo, Evinrude... That jet ski you rented when you were on vacation was most likely made by BRP.
These guys have their engineering wired tight. I trust my Spyder more than my car.
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