SpyderByter
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I think this poll needs one more variable. It would be helpful to know if the owner had the second update done........
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Spyder DPS Poll
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Desert Spyder
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I realize this poll is not accurate because only 130 have responded but if I read it right there's a 50-50 chance that the 2008's will have a DPS situation. Do I read this right?
musicarcade
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uh, yeah,,, and a third of those haven't been fixed apparently:dontknow:
Desert Spyder
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Gulp! I have a 2008. The only DPS "problem" I had was after the 2nd update it went into limp mode twice. They reformatted and everything fine since then ... except my mpg kinda sucks now.
UMmmmm...that's about 17%, not one third.:sour:
77 are ok or were fixed....13 still having problems....17% ...:lecturef_smilie:
musicarcade
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no I believe it's 28% if u wanna get picky
13 out of 45 2008 owners
13/45 =.28888889
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I was just referring to the syders that had dps issues.
of those that had issues, nearly a third are still unresolved...
glad I cleared that up - clear as mud eh?
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sure whatever:roflblack:
RoadHammer
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ok Firefly 2 questions
What does your magic orb say about the results so far?
What is that in your avatar now ?
What does your magic orb say about the results so far?
What is that in your avatar now ?
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SpyderWolf
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Now, what would make it even more interesting would be to find out whether the people who reported problems with their 2009 models have an early 09 or late 09 production run. Both the DPS and ECM part numbers changed between 08 and 09, but I have no idea why. :dontknow:
SpyderWolf
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Firefly
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Smylinacha
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What about the people who don't use this forum.....some people just don't do the forum thing. I was reading about the recall done from the Kneeslider and there are like 7 or 8 complaints on that - not sure if they are members on here or not - didn't recognize the names.....
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/03/can-am-spyder-roadster-recall/
If you read the comments after the article you'll see some people who posted about it. I mean 7 or 8 isn't huge but that's 7 or 8 lives right there - it's happening. I'm not gonna comment emotionally about anything but I'm just saying that there are others out there so how many more that we don't see on the internet?
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/06/03/can-am-spyder-roadster-recall/
If you read the comments after the article you'll see some people who posted about it. I mean 7 or 8 isn't huge but that's 7 or 8 lives right there - it's happening. I'm not gonna comment emotionally about anything but I'm just saying that there are others out there so how many more that we don't see on the internet?
Firefly
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The numbers show what they show.. you can read into them whatever you want... and it's obvious many will see them in a different light. As I stated before, the goal isn't to 'prove' or 'disprove' anything in particular. I find the numbers very interesting......
My take so far....and much of this is pure speculation .....
1. Numbers are skewed from both those with and without DPS problems. Some may not know if they have DPS problems *yet*, while others have sold them and the bike *may* better fit into the 'fixed' category--- or the missing 'not sure' category. Others have not voted because they are unsure where they really fit. Nature of the beast and expected.
2. The number of those that have had DPS problems is around 60 so far. This is higher than I personally would have anticipated from this small sampling.
3. Out of 3,700+ members we're only getting a small sample. How many of the members out here own Spyders? My best guess would be 40-50% own Spyders-- but that's just a stab in the dark. So 1,500 - 2,000....??:dontknow:.
4. How many more Spyders of the general membership have had DPS problems??? Impossible to know, but my gut feeling would be there are far more without DPS problems than with. I believe the current '40% HAD or HAVE DPS problems' would drop substantially.
5. I don't believe out of potentially 2,000 Spyder owners out here that 40% have/had DPS problems. That would be 800 Spyders and this board would be lit up like a christmas tree.... as would other boards.
6. If we did have around 2,000 Spyder owners out here, and if most of them reported no DPS problems and we were left with only '60' we have now - that would put DPS failures at around 3% of all Spyders. This number is also higher than what I anticipated, and in reality will probably be HIGHER--- maybe upwards of 5 to 7%... which is pretty shocking to me....:yikes:. I would be floored if the number hit 10% with DPS problems.
7. Then again there were 9,000 Spyders recalled that had the 'potential' for DPS issues.. so maybe these numbers shouldn't be surprising...:dontknow:
8. Perhaps the most important thing I see is the numbers are heavily skewed towards this being a '2008 model year' problem.
So what was up with 2008??
What is different in 2009/2010??
That would be my area of interest!
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On the 2nd question.... Firefly-- the SciFi TV series.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303461/
Firefly
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No one's saying it 'isn't happening'..... that isn't the purpose of this poll at all. Certainly there will be plenty we don't know about either way.
SpyderWolf
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Different part numbers for not only the DPS, but also the ECM. Not sure what changed within the components themselves, but something had to in order to require a part number change.
It would also be interesting to find out if there is a difference in the Steering Angle Sensor (SAS) or Yaw Sensor as well. :dontknow:
As FireFly stated earlier on in this thread, this poll can only cover those on this forum that choose to participate. While it may be a more widespread issue out in the wild, we have no possible way of collecting those numbers.
