Splitting ECM to flash

[aka1004]

Since I’m in Texas I was going to swing by monster fuel injection’s US dealer in shereveport to have ecm flashed but they say ecm has to be split opened then resealed????
I thought it would be just plugged into computer and be reprogrammed!???
Anyone know the exact procedure?

 

[Hypurone]

Steve has stated to me in the past that they do have to open them when they are shipped in to them. There are clips on the ECM and a rubber seal/gasket, so no issues with doing this....

Not sure if either of the US shops have the ability to flash via the OBDII port. Might wanna drop Steve an email for clarification...

 

[aka1004]

So monster FI in Canada can do it thru the port now instead of opening the ecm?
I just got off the phone with the US vendor and they DO have to split it open then reseal with 18 hour curing time.

 

[Firefly]

Since I’m in Texas I was going to swing by monster fuel injection’s US dealer in shereveport to have ecm flashed but they say ecm has to be split opened then resealed????
I thought it would be just plugged into computer and be reprogrammed!???
Anyone know the exact procedure?

I would wait.....

Dynojet --- the makers of items like the Power Commander, is coming out with a version of their Powervision CX for the Spyder. This is plug-n-play and allows YOU to flash your own ECM, back up the original, run various setups, clear codes, etc. The unit is about the same price as an ECM flash from one of these vendors, and unlike all of these other flash vendors, Dynojet is going to be posting actual dyno runs showing the improvements. None of the vendors doing flash upgrades are showing dyno results... it's all 'seat of the pants' testing.

The units should be out in a few weeks and will run around $385. Once you plug it in you can backup your original settings, download various other versions, etc... then you unplug the unit and put it away-- does not have to remain plugged in. Once you run the unit on your Spyder it is linked to it and will not work on any other Spyder.

I'll be getting one as soon as available....

 

[Peteoz]

Since I’m in Texas I was going to swing by monster fuel injection’s US dealer in shereveport to have ecm flashed but they say ecm has to be split opened then resealed????
I thought it would be just plugged into computer and be reprogrammed!???
Anyone know the exact procedure?

When I had mine done out here, Jase said there were two options. He could download via the port, which would mean that the new map could be accidentally overwritten by dealer service, or the ECM could be split, have the new map loaded direct, and the new map could NOT be overwritten by the dealer.

Pete

 

[trikermutha]

I would wait.....

Dynojet --- the makers of items like the Power Commander, is coming out with a version of their Powervision CX for the Spyder. This is plug-n-play and allows YOU to flash your own ECM, back up the original, run various setups, clear codes, etc. The unit is about the same price as an ECM flash from one of these vendors, and unlike all of these other flash vendors, Dynojet is going to be posting actual dyno runs showing the improvements. None of the vendors doing flash upgrades are showing dyno results... it's all 'seat of the pants' testing.

The units should be out in a few weeks and will run around $385. Once you plug it in you can backup your original settings, download various other versions, etc... then you unplug the unit and put it away-- does not have to remain plugged in. Once you run the unit on your Spyder it is linked to it and will not work on any other Spyder.

I'll be getting one as soon as available....

Reminds me of the tuner I had for the Harley. Plugs into the service port.

Wonder when the release date will be?

 

[aka1004]

I would wait.....

Dynojet --- the makers of items like the Power Commander, is coming out with a version of their Powervision CX for the Spyder. This is plug-n-play and allows YOU to flash your own ECM, back up the original, run various setups, clear codes, etc. The unit is about the same price as an ECM flash from one of these vendors, and unlike all of these other flash vendors, Dynojet is going to be posting actual dyno runs showing the improvements. None of the vendors doing flash upgrades are showing dyno results... it's all 'seat of the pants' testing.

The units should be out in a few weeks and will run around $385. Once you plug it in you can backup your original settings, download various other versions, etc... then you unplug the unit and put it away-- does not have to remain plugged in. Once you run the unit on your Spyder it is linked to it and will not work on any other Spyder.

I'll be getting one as soon as available....

Is this for ALL spiders?
I have 15 RS.
Thank you.

 

[Bob Denman]

I would wait.....
Dynojet --- the makers of items like the Power Commander, is coming out with a version of their Powervision CX for the Spyder. This is plug-n-play and allows YOU to flash your own ECM, back up the original, run various setups, clear codes, etc.
The units should be out in a few weeks and will run around $385. Once you plug it in you can backup your original settings, download various other versions, etc... then you unplug the unit and put it away-- does not have to remain plugged in. Once you run the unit on your Spyder it is linked to it and will not work on any other Spyder.

Dan,



This sounds exactly like what folks have been looking for! :yes:
Let us know when you get I, and have a chance to start tinkering... :thumbup:

 

[Hypurone]

I just got off the phone with the US vendor and they DO have to split it open then reseal with 18 hour curing time.

Hmmm, that's not what Steve has written to me in past emails. Maybe you have an older ver ECM?

The PowerCommander option does sound good too! That way if you take it to the dealer and something manages to get f**ked up, you can easily and quickly re-flash it yourself! You most likely won't get the option to have reduced throttle rotation required like from Steve but that type of action isn't for most folks as it does require VERY FINE throttle control/application abilities from the ryder....

 

[aka1004]

Hmmm, that's not what Steve has written to me in past emails. Maybe you have an older ver ECM?

The PowerCommander option does sound good too! That way if you take it to the dealer and something manages to get f**ked up, you can easily and quickly re-flash it yourself! You most likely won't get the option to have reduced throttle rotation required like from Steve but that type of action isn't for most folks as it does require VERY FINE throttle control/application abilities from the ryder....

The reply from monster states ecm needs to be opened.
But I’m all for power vision cx and so glad I posted this otherwise, I would have never known about it.

 

[Firefly]

The reply from monster states ecm needs to be opened.
But I’m all for power vision cx and so glad I posted this otherwise, I would have never known about it.

I'll let you know when it's out. I've been in direct contact with them about it. Texted with them earlier this week and the guy told me a few weeks away from release.

These guys really know their stuff and have the Power Vision for Indians as well as Can-Am offroad equipment and maybe some other Polaris stuff too.

This is from the Indian/Victory page about it:

[h=3]Performance Tune Features[/h]

​

• Fueling revised for maximum power and torque
• Tunes available for popular aftermarket modifications
• Spark timing optimized for 91-93 octane fuel
• Rev limit raised
• Speed limits raised
• Torque limiting functions reduced or eliminated
• Revised drive-by-wire throttle profiles, (Indian and Victory Octane models only)

Here's their website:

http://www.dynojet.com/PowerVision/

 

[MSa1956]

power vision

I would wait.....

Dynojet --- the makers of items like the Power Commander, is coming out with a version of their Powervision CX for the Spyder. This is plug-n-play and allows YOU to flash your own ECM, back up the original, run various setups, clear codes, etc. The unit is about the same price as an ECM flash from one of these vendors, and unlike all of these other flash vendors, Dynojet is going to be posting actual dyno runs showing the improvements. None of the vendors doing flash upgrades are showing dyno results... it's all 'seat of the pants' testing.

The units should be out in a few weeks and will run around $385. Once you plug it in you can backup your original settings, download various other versions, etc... then you unplug the unit and put it away-- does not have to remain plugged in. Once you run the unit on your Spyder it is linked to it and will not work on any other Spyder.

I'll be getting one as soon as available....

May I ask where you read this about the power vision cx? So I may see it also, and then I can inquire about it at dynojet. Thanks Mike:yes:

 

[trikermutha]

May I ask where you read this about the power vision cx? So I may see it also, and then I can inquire about it at dynojet. Thanks Mike:yes:

Just contact Dyno Jet/Power commander and they will reply. They did say it will be soon.

They always say a few weeks then turns into years.

So time will tell??

 

[jcthorne]

The Dynojet product has been 'a few weeks away' for over 3 years now. Thats what they told me back in late 2015 when I asked.

 

[AY4B]

Revzilla is selling Power Commander for the Spyder but not sure how this works.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-power-commander-v-canam-spyder-rt-rt-s-f3-2014-2017

 

[trikermutha]

Not the power commander. It the power Vision programmer version.

 

[jcthorne]

Revzilla is selling Power Commander for the Spyder but not sure how this works.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-power-commander-v-canam-spyder-rt-rt-s-f3-2014-2017

That is the old piggy back system that over rides fuel mapping only. Cannot adjust throttle limits, torque limits or timing. That is not the unit being discussed here.

Within the oem limits of speed and torque, the fuel mappings are actually pretty spot on already. Little to be gained.

 

[AY4B]

That is the old piggy back system that over rides fuel mapping only. Cannot adjust throttle limits, torque limits or timing. That is not the unit being discussed here.

Within the oem limits of speed and torque, the fuel mappings are actually pretty spot on already. Little to be gained.

Thats what I thought, but wanted to hear it from someone like you, Thanks!

 

[Fire34]

OK Newbie Here

pps:
After reading the posts on flashing the ECU I am wondering if I should do this or not? We have a 2013 RTL and currently seems to be running ok to me. First, how hard is the ECU to get at (tupperware etc. ) Second, what would/should I expect if I were to pull the trigger and get this done.

Currently I am driving what i consider like a madman:shocked: shifting around 6500 rpm and cruising arund the 4300 to 4500 range. When in traffic I downshift to keep it within that range We get around the 29 to 30 mpg range on last check
Thanks Guys
Dave

 

[Peteoz]

pps:
After reading the posts on flashing the ECU I am wondering if I should do this or not? We have a 2013 RTL and currently seems to be running ok to me. First, how hard is the ECU to get at (tupperware etc. ) Second, what would/should I expect if I were to pull the trigger and get this done.

Currently I am driving what i consider like a madman:shocked: shifting around 6500 rpm and cruising arund the 4300 to 4500 range. When in traffic I downshift to keep it within that range We get around the 29 to 30 mpg range on last check
Thanks Guys
Dave

If it seems like it is running OK for you, why would you upgrade, Fire?
I upgraded my F3-L primarily because I have to get on the Freeway to go anywhere, and was worried about the bogging down that the F3 did in the lower gears, especially with a B-double approaching fast. I was happy to pay for an upgrade just to resolve that. I now find I also have much smoother acceleration and slightly better mileage, which is a bonus

Pete