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so are you ready for pricing

There is one possible scenario which could markedly improve used prices... The engine on the 2014 has even worse problems than the 2013. Examples... Transmission failures, belt breakages, valve problems, piston seizures... Anything could happen.
:lecturef_smilie: That ain't funny; and it ain't cool...
 
Well it's true too many people making false statements. I don't build em I just buy em


Proud owner of the 2nd 2014 Rts delivered in Florida :)
 
There is one possible scenario which could markedly improve used prices... The engine on the 2014 has even worse problems than the 2013. Examples... Transmission failures, belt breakages, valve problems, piston seizures... Anything could happen.

Don't even go there. There is a real good chance that I will be the proud owner in the next few months and we don't want to even think like this.
 
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sorry- but here is another good example of someone talking down the scenario on the 14 RTS (scenario) when they don't have all the facts,these are night and day compared to the 14's, i know, i have one.

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My dealer told me my ST-S is about $13k or less because of the pricing on the leftover from this year, he told me good luck finding a dealer that will by the ST-S for more than that....
 
I think that I'd be shopping for a new dealer; yours seems to be trying to just accept his lowball offer with a minimum of fuss... :shocked:
It NEVER hurts to check around at some other shops... :thumbup:
 
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I did visit 2 other dealers around my town I ask for $17K for my ST-S and they laugh, I told them I want the 2014 ST-S and they told me sure but your bike and issues it has is not worth $17K, they are talking $12,500 to $13K, I want the new 14 but not that bad...
 
I did visit 2 other dealers around my town I ask for $17K for my ST-S and they laugh, I told them I want the 2014 ST-S and they told me sure but your bike and issues it has is not worth $17K, they are talking $12,500 to $13K, I want the new 14 but not that bad...

It is interesting how things change. I bet the dealers were not talking this way when they sold you the new 2013 ST. :dontknow: I don't see much advantage going from a 13 ST to a 14 ST though. There have been no changes other than the air vents. The heat issue fix is not a done deal. :dontknow:
 
Owners have been talking about cooking legs and feet since 07. Seven years later still talking about it.

A little foot heat, I expected. Never had a problem with leg heat on my RT. Cooking hoses, wires, canisters, modules, etc, is an engineering and testing screw-up that so far has had a band-aid applied. We shall see! :popcorn:
 
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